Strange "ROA" soldier

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Strange "ROA" soldier

Post by panzerIV » 01 May 2006 14:03

Hello, I found this pic on http://www.eucmh.com/center-photos-cent ... andy-1944/ and I have some questions about it...

I've never seen that panzer badge over his national shield before, what is it?
And also, what shield is that?

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Post by MacX » 01 May 2006 16:29

also his collar tabs are quite untypical, aren't they?

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Post by Marcus » 01 May 2006 16:40

According to "Foreign Legions of the Third Reich Vol 4" by David Littlejohn that unofficial badge was awarded by von Renteln to men of his Cossack Regiment for bravery in action against Red Army tanks.
The other arm badge is the badge of that regiment.

The collar tabs are given as patches for non-commissioned ranks, introduced May 1943.

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Post by G. » 05 May 2006 00:06

is that a WW2 period photo? Doesn't really look like it is,,,anyway...Yes, not POA but early Cossack,,,crossed lance collar tabs,,early shield and he has the un official panzer 'honor' badge...The tabs carried over but the red & white arm shield wasn't around for long is is pretty rare...

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Post by Glynwed » 07 May 2006 08:47

I sow a photo of Oberst von Rintelen with the same armshields (shield + white panzer with F) at october 1942. Kavkaz area, when he is inspecting Kozak unit. Wasn´t there some Panzerabteilung F?

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Post by Semenov » 07 May 2006 22:21

It is really foto from WWII.

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Post by GEB » 09 May 2006 22:04

What is the provenance for this photo? I too must doubt its authenticity. The MG is perfectly matched to the magazine: nice and black and clean: with no indications of ever being fired, cast aside,and then later refilled. The uniform appears to be freshly cleaned as well. (At the front!?!) And the leather straps on the binoculars look fresh out of the box. This image is just too clean. Too clean even to represent his first day back off leave!

It is however an interesting study of a rather obscure part of history. (even more reason to doubt its authenticity)

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Post by Xavier » 10 May 2006 19:15

elswhere the photo's foot says is a position in normandy, another view of the same soldier:
since I guess is a PK phot, the quality is good, and for sure, posed, in optimal conditions, hence, your suspicions about being fake....
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Post by Marcus » 12 May 2006 18:25

The first photo and another view of that soldier are included in "Under the St. Andrew's Cross: Russian & Cossack volunteers in World War II 1941-1945" by Peter J. Huxley-Blythe.

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Post by panzerIV » 13 May 2006 18:23

I think it's kinda sad that some people think that just because a period pic is "too clear" it must be a fake. The cameras during WW2 were very well developed and the people knew how to adjust focus and get sharp pic and so on...

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Post by Armenische_Legionar » 14 May 2006 18:47

I think this is the same man in the both photos///

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Post by Heimatschuss » 08 Aug 2006 12:06

Hello,

I'd like to add the following photo from http://www.ullsteinbild.de

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