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Müller Heinrich (Gestapo-Müller)

Post by Requin Marteau » 02 Nov 2002 12:14

Does anyone know what unit Heinrich Müller was assigned to during the 1st W War? Was he a fighter pilot or in a two seater unit? Did he have any victories?
All I know is that he was in the Bavarian army, became a pilot and rose to a NCO rank during the war. Does anyone have a complete list of his awards? His tunic shows loops for two long ribbon bars. He was a career policeman serving from about 1920 until 1936 when he became Gestopo Chief.

His awards that I know are:

WWI Bavarian Pilot badge
WWI Bavarian retired pilot badge
EKII 1914
EKI 1914
Bavarian MVK 2. kl mit Schwertern,
Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914-1918 mit Schwertern,
SA Sportabzeichen in Bronze,
Deutsche Olympia Ehrenzeichen 1. kl,
Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 13 März 1938,
Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1 Oktober 1938,
Goldenes Parteiabzeichen (31 May 1939),
1939 Spange zum 1914 EK-II (29 October 1940),
1939 Spange zum 1914 EK-I (29 October 1940),
KVK-II mit Schwertern,
KVK-I mit Schwertern,
Polizei Dienstauszeichnung in Gold,
Dienstauszeichnungen d. NSDAP in Bronze,
Ritterkreuz des KVK mit Schwertern (15 November 1944).
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Post by Requin Marteau » 02 Nov 2002 12:20

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Post by Requin Marteau » 02 Nov 2002 12:23

More,
In the photo,
I don't indentify awards?
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Not Gestapo-Müller in photo...

Post by Michael Miller » 02 Nov 2002 16:38

That is not Heinrich Müller in the photo- it is SS-Oberführer Georg Wilhelm Müller, a longtime assistant to Goebbels in the Propaganda Ministry who became known as "Müller-Oslo" because of his assignment to Norway (I believe as representative of Propaganda Ministry). Card behind his neck presumably reads "G. W. Müller". That's Admiral Schniewind to his right.

Awards are all wrong- this man did not serve in World War I (note EK II ribbon is for the 1939 EK II [black/white/red]; the Gestapo chief would be wearing the 1914 EK I with 1939 Bar. Also this guy is only SS-Oberführer and the photo is 1942 or later (appears to be newly-designed 1942 SS rank insignia on collar)- by which time the Gestapo chief had been promoted SS-Gruppenführer und Generalleutnant der Polizei.


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"Gestapo" Mueller

Post by Peter » 28 Nov 2002 21:21

I'm sure that I read somewhere recently in a new book that he was pilot in a 2 seat ground attack/light bomber Jasta on the Eastern front.
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Post by Wilfried Abenaschon » 29 Nov 2002 11:47

Hi,
Have a look at this thread : Looking for pictures of Gestapo-Müller where I give more details of this pic.
Because of the admiral we know that this pic was taken after 1942 and the Oberführer still wears the old collar traps.
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Post by Phil Nix » 29 Nov 2002 12:10

Note from his lebenslauf dated 11.8.39
Jan 1917 Kriegsfreiwilliger zur Fliegertruppe
Ausbildung in Augsberg, Munche,Neustadt
Flugzeugfuhrer 12.1917
Beim Flieger A. Abteilung 287 4.1918 - 1.1919
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Post by AHLF » 04 Aug 2003 19:40

I have photo of Müller's awards bar.

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Re: Not Gestapo-Müller in photo...

Post by Wilfried Abenaschon » 08 Aug 2003 15:10

Michael Miller wrote: That's Admiral Schniewind to his right.
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No, it's Admiral Otto Ciliax, next to Oberführer Müller.

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Post by thomas » 11 Aug 2003 10:42

Dear Renquin

I think the SS-Stammrolle is also not this one of Müller Heinrich. Because the name ends with"ch", but hier i think that finishes with a "g". Could be the paper of a Müller Georg or something like this. I think that was the "mistake".

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