Horst-Wessel-Lied (Die Fahne hoch...)

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Horst-Wessel-Lied (Die Fahne hoch...)

Post by Morris » 28 Jun 2003 15:16

[Several topics dealing with the same song have been merged by the host, Ivan Ž.]

Hallo,

I think you all know the Horst-Wessel-Song, also known as "Die Fahne hoch", which glorify the SA. This song was sung by HJ and others until the end in 1945. Now my question is, how the leaders of NS-Germany justificated this song?
I ask it, because the SA-leaders were murdered in 1934 by the SS and followly the SA lost all meaning it had. The SA wanted a second nationalsocialist revolution, that's why it was smashed. Now, I am wondered, why the NS has sung an anthem of a rebellious organisation.

Morris :)

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Post by Leica » 29 Jun 2003 15:35

Does someone have further information about Horst Wessel? Google didn't help me much. Thanks in advance!

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Post by Brig » 29 Jun 2003 17:22

The song doesn't necessarily glorify the SA, it glorifies the cause of the Party. Remember, the SS wore brownshirts initially, too.

Horst Wessel. From what I remember, he was a young SA thug who was killed by a Commie in a fight over a girl. They turned him into a Martyr because they needed such things for inspiration doing that era of the Party's life.

I got to ask, anyone know Wessel's Unit/Sector etc? I mean the color on his can and the numbers on his collar tab, since I know I sound jumbled :?

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Post by Helly Angel » 29 Jun 2003 17:46

Horst Wessel was the leader of SA-Sturm 5.

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Post by Claymore » 09 Jan 2005 19:30

A sheet music example from my collection...

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Post by Claymore » 01 May 2005 10:58

...another...
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Post by Claymore » 15 May 2005 00:42

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Post by Fubbik » 30 May 2005 14:54

Regarding the 2nd Horst-Wessel-Lied sheet there are two things to notice:

1. This introduction is not used on recordings.

2. The syllables "schossen" are on recordings played and sung on the note F, above the A given on the sheet.

Just for the record.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 04 Jun 2005 21:36

Fubbik wrote:1. This introduction is not used on recordings.
No, that particular arrangement was recorded, in 1930, by the arranger himself (Groschwitz).

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Horst-Wessel-Gedenkmarsch

Post by mty » 21 Jan 2006 02:29

Hi.

For what purpose was "Horst-Wessel-Gedenkmarsch" originally composed and was it associated to certain events like parades and funerals? The overall theme seems rather sad and the ending part of the march is somehow moving, magnificent where the triumphal melody turns into a slow but still recognizable Horst Wessel Lied that is played slightly different way than usually. When I heard the march first time I had a strange feeling that the title was composed when everything was collapsing around, as sort of a memorial to glorious past - but was it really that way?

Anyone else had similar feelings/thoughts about this rather peculiar march? Who was the composer (my guess is Müller-John, as the bandmaster of Leibstandarte) and what was the year/event this was first time played? :)

[Title corrected by the host; "Leibstandarten-Gedenkmarsch" and "Horst Wessel-SS-Gedenkmarsch" are fictional titles.]

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Re: Horst-Wessel-Gedenkmarsch

Post by Ivan Ž. » 01 Feb 2006 17:31

"Horst-Wessel-Gedenkmarsch" was one of two marches composed by Hans Bajer in 1932 as a tribute to Horst Wessel (and they both contain the melody of the "Horst-Wessel-Lied" in trio). There was never a slightest connection between the composition and the SS, that is all just a fiction created in the 1990s.

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Post by Claymore » 18 Jun 2006 16:38

For anyone with an interest in the "Horst Wessel Lied / Die Fahne hoch!" song-lyrics....then visit this link for an academic explanation of the many known variants of additional Horst Wessel Lied verses: http://www.george-broderick.de/ns_docs/ ... l_lied.doc

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Post by Claymore » 29 Aug 2006 22:12

...another example..
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Post by Claymore » 10 Sep 2006 17:42

...more!
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Post by Claymore » 15 Jun 2007 12:34

...last !
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