Türkische Offizier in Deutsches Armee

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Türkische Offizier in Deutsches Armee

Post by Gotha » 07 Aug 2006 08:03

Ich suche Namen und Regimente für Türkische Offizier in Deutsche Armee zwischen 1900 und 1918.

Grüß und Vielen Danke.
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Chris Dale
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Turkish officers in the German army

Post by Chris Dale » 15 Aug 2006 03:13

I guess there were Turkish officers attached but I don't actually know of any. Can any other readers be of assistance? In case some people can't read the German, Gotha is "searching for the names and regiments of Turkish offciers in the German army from 1900-1918".
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Post by alkankizil@tr.net » 05 Sep 2006 14:25

There were several, the most prominent being Mahmut Shevket, later general and prime minister before being assasinated, Mahmut Shevket was in Germany before 1900. Some members of the Ottoman Royal Family also served in the German Army such as Yusuf Izzettin who was at Verdun. Cevat who later was general and corps commander at Gallipoli and Asim a classmate of Keitel who was later deputy chief of the general staff of Turkish Republican Army. Being away from home and my archives I quoted these from memory.I hope they will be of some help...
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Post by Tosun Saral » 22 Nov 2006 10:24

Col.Halil Sami Bey: (look for a photo at axis)
He was commander of 9th Infantry Division at Gallipoli. He is the first one to resist the invading British in April 25th 1915. He quarraled with Liman von Sanders about war plans and dismissed by him.

He was send to Germany for military education in 1889. Germans attended him as Lt. to the 73th Prince Albert Regiment in Hanover. In 1896 he was promoted to 2nd Lt. He returns to Turkey in 1897.

source:Ergun Göze "Çanakkale'de Kumandanlar Savaşı" ( War Between Commanders in Gallipoli, 2003 p.111)
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Post by infantry » 22 Feb 2007 19:59

Dear All,
As far as I know Ottoman officers served within the German units only as a part of their military training -on job training. During 1890s very few individual officers were sent to Germany. The numbers increased after 1909. This time not individuals but groups of officers, NCOs and even civilian technicians were sent. During the war the numbers of technicians including railroad foremen passed the numbers of military personnel.
Did any of them take part combat actions within the German units of Western Front? To my knowledge no. I know some Ottoman officers attached to German units at the Galicia front but only in liason officer capacity.
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Re: Türkische Offizier in Deutsches Armee

Post by Tosun Saral » 27 Nov 2010 19:49

Cafer Askeri Bey
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Re: Türkische Offizier in Deutsches Armee

Post by Ken S. » 28 Nov 2010 06:56

If there's still an interest, I'll check my 1890 Rangliste as I recall coming across a few.
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