Use Of Captured Uniforms By Germans

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Use Of Captured Uniforms By Germans

Post by Animal » 18 Sep 2006 09:34

To what extent did the German armed forces or their auxiliaries such as the Volksturm, make use of captured uniforms? Of course the task of clothing the various Eastern units no doubt would've at best heavily taxed the Reich's clothing industry's ability to provide proper uniforms for them, and the Volksturm units used whatever they could get their hands on, yet since many of the captured uniforms would no doubt have been khaki or olive drab, I believe that no doubt would have created confusion in the field, with personnel being mistaken for enemy troops. The Dutch, Norwegian, Yugoslav, and 1915 Danish uniforms would have been easier to utilize since they were in some shade of grey.

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Post by egon » 18 Sep 2006 10:35

The Schalburg Korps-SS used the Danish M23 uniform.

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Post by Doggowitz » 18 Sep 2006 14:45

Huge quantities of Dutch Uniforms were issued, slightly modified, to Eastern, Cossack and Auxillirary Units. Russian and other Eastern Uniforms were used by Eastern Batallions and Auslliary Police Units. In 1938, when Austria was annected, the fieldgrey Austrian Uniforms were slightly modified and issued to Wehrmacht and Rear Units.
British Battle-Dresses were issued to U-Boat Crews.

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Post by Heimatschuss » 18 Sep 2006 16:19

Hi all,

in his book "Uniformen and Abzeichen der Luftwaffe 1940-1945" Brian L. Davis shows some pictures of German paratroopers wearing captured British tropical uniforms (shorts and shirts) after the conquest of Crete. The reason was probably that the Luftwaffe did not have any other stocks available that were suitable for the hot climate there and that no immediate enemy contact was to be expected.

Someone here on the forum recently had a photo of what was identified as retailored Czech uniforms, It was said that this was quite common.

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Post by AlexG » 18 Sep 2006 16:49

Soldiers of PzDiv Herman Goering used Italian Para-jump smocks. HG and SS units adopoted also Italian Zeltbahns.

Czechoslovak and Romanian helmets were used by German Luftschutz.

Those Gebirgsjager units, which had been transfered from Austrian army, used Austrian uniforms with insignia added.

Obviously you had to see the pircures of Germans at the Eastern Front, durign Winter 1941, with Soviet furs, caps, and winter shoes.

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Post by Animal » 18 Sep 2006 22:32

Heimatschuss wrote:Hi all,

in his book "Uniformen and Abzeichen der Luftwaffe 1940-1945" Brian L. Davis shows some pictures of German paratroopers wearing captured British tropical uniforms (shorts and shirts) after the conquest of Crete. The reason was probably that the Luftwaffe did not have any other stocks available that were suitable for the hot climate there and that no immediate enemy contact was to be expected.

Someone here on the forum recently had a photo of what was identified as retailored Czech uniforms, It was said that this was quite common.

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Is there a link to that picture? And if those Czech uniforms were being used by the Wehrmacht, one must assume that there was at least some attempt to dye them grey.

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Post by Doggowitz » 18 Sep 2006 22:59

And if those Czech uniforms were being used by the Wehrmacht, one must assume that there was at least some attempt to dye them grey.
Not exactly gray but Fieldgray, wich is, as you know, a green shade.
Since the Czech Uniforms were khaki/brownish, they had to add some blue/green shade to achieve fieldgrey.

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Post by AlexG » 18 Sep 2006 23:24

http://www.militarymuseum.cz/cz/cz/gall ... &actual=16

Here you can see Czechoslovak uniforms from Czech Army Museum in Prague (I've been there last August). I don't think it was so easy and cheap to repaint and resew it into German pattern. Maybe those "remade" uniforms were used by some auxiliary forces of Bömen und Mären Protectorate?

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Post by Doggowitz » 18 Sep 2006 23:45

On the pictures are Officers Uniforms only. They are the pattern of most Officers Uniform around the world in the 1930's. Soldiers Uniforms were somewhat different. Theoretically with a bluish dye, they would get a fieldgrey colour, and some changes could have been made. It was afterall no problem with the Austrian, or even more Dutch Uniforms, who were nowhere similar to German Uniforms.
But you are right that such captured Uniforms were mainly issued unchanged/converted to rear and auxilliary units.

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Post by AlexG » 19 Sep 2006 00:47

There is a picture of a private (that one with vz.32 helmet).
I've never heared about using Polish captured uniform by the Germans. Polish uniforms had colour khaki, close to Czechoslovak.
btw. Why should Germans use Czechoslovak uniforms, when there was Slovak - Axis army with the same uniform model to utilise it? ;)

About Austrian uniforms in the WH - I have a book "Generaloberst Dietl. Eine Biographie" by R. Kaltenegger in which the author states that some units of Gebirgsjagger used that uniforms unchanged (just with Nazi eagles and rank signs replacing the Austrian marks). I think GJ units where more "conservative", because I've seen the picture of them with Reichswehr uniform (characteristical rank shoulder boards with different shape form the WH ones) from 1940. Obviously it may be just "drill - uniform".

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Post by Animal » 19 Sep 2006 03:08

Given that Dutch uniforms had a stand collar, wouldn't there have been a problem with putting German collar insignia such as the lace bars or SS lightening bolts on them, or was there an effort to reshape the collar on those? Of course the use of German collar insignia was by no means universal in the Eastern units like the Vlasov Army or Russian Army of Liberation, or various Caucasian, Turkestani, Baltic, or Ukrainian units.

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Post by Bjørn from Norway » 19 Sep 2006 11:06

In April-June 40, German sailors used Norwegian uniforms and equipment. Here a well known picture.

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Post by Doggowitz » 19 Sep 2006 14:23

Regarding the dutch collars: The Germans simply replaced them with dark-green or fieldgrey German collars.

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Post by AlexG » 19 Sep 2006 15:56

And what about... trousers? e.g. Swedish ones are used by some reenacting groups.

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Post by Animal » 19 Sep 2006 18:06

Doggowitz wrote:Regarding the dutch collars: The Germans simply replaced them with dark-green or fieldgrey German collars.
I suppose the Germans also added side pockets to the Dutch enlisted men's tunics, which didn't have them. And the pantaloons of the Dutch OR's uniform may not have required reshaping or lengthening when they were worn with German boots, or Russian boots by the Eastern units.

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