Soviet Danube fleet 1944/1945
Soviet Danube fleet 1944/1945
Does sombody knows any detail on Soviet Danube fleet in years 1944/1945 What kinde of ships they were using? I know about monitor Zhelezniakov. Does it fight up to Wienna or it fought only up to Budapest? And what about others crafts? Speed boats, mortars barges, armored barges, barges? What model were used? What was the nubering of the units?
I know that BKA-1124, BKA-1125 were used in numbers:
List with histories of some boats (in Russian):
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/small/typ_1124.htm
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/small/typ_1125.htm
Both types were taking combat up to Vienna ( Belgrade, Budapest, and Vienna attack operations).
Some of the boats have realy interesting histories
[quote=""BKA-1125 listings"]34. №64 (с 9.10.1942 г. №91, с 21.03.1943 г. №314, с 11.06.1943 г. №313, с 22.03.1944 "БК-313")
Вооружение: 1 х 76.2 мм, 1 х 82 мм РПУ "М-8-М", 2 х 12.7 мм и 1 х 7.62 мм пулемет.
Заложен в 1941 г., спущен весной 1942 г., вст. в строй в сентябре 1942 г. и 27.10.1942 г. вошел в состав Волжской флотилии. 30.05.1943 г. вошел в состав Азовской флотилии. 13.04.1944 г. перечислен в Дунайскую фортилию. Участвовал в обороне Сталинграда, Ясско-Кишиневской 20 - 29.08.1944 г., Будапештской 29.10.1944 - 13.02.1945 гг. и Венской 16.03 - 15.04.1945 г. наступательных операциях. 19.01.1959 г. выведен из боевого состава и переклассифицирован в учебный бронекатер, а 30.06.1959 г. исключен из состава ВМФ и передан Ровненскому клубу ДОСААФ. [/quote]
List with histories of some boats (in Russian):
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/small/typ_1124.htm
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/small/typ_1125.htm
Both types were taking combat up to Vienna ( Belgrade, Budapest, and Vienna attack operations).
Some of the boats have realy interesting histories
[quote=""BKA-1125 listings"]34. №64 (с 9.10.1942 г. №91, с 21.03.1943 г. №314, с 11.06.1943 г. №313, с 22.03.1944 "БК-313")
Вооружение: 1 х 76.2 мм, 1 х 82 мм РПУ "М-8-М", 2 х 12.7 мм и 1 х 7.62 мм пулемет.
Заложен в 1941 г., спущен весной 1942 г., вст. в строй в сентябре 1942 г. и 27.10.1942 г. вошел в состав Волжской флотилии. 30.05.1943 г. вошел в состав Азовской флотилии. 13.04.1944 г. перечислен в Дунайскую фортилию. Участвовал в обороне Сталинграда, Ясско-Кишиневской 20 - 29.08.1944 г., Будапештской 29.10.1944 - 13.02.1945 гг. и Венской 16.03 - 15.04.1945 г. наступательных операциях. 19.01.1959 г. выведен из боевого состава и переклассифицирован в учебный бронекатер, а 30.06.1959 г. исключен из состава ВМФ и передан Ровненскому клубу ДОСААФ. [/quote]
34. №64 (from 9.10.1942 №91, from 21.03.1943 №314, from 11.06.1943 №313, from 22.03.1944 "БК-313")
Armmament: 1 х 76.2mm, 1 х 82mm "М-8-М" rocket system, 2 х 12.7mm and 1 х 7.62 mm MG.
Started in 1941, finished in fall 1942 taken over by navy in september 1942. On 27.10.1942 becomes part of Volga flottila, on 30.051943 becomes part of Azov flottila on 13.04.1944 becomes part of Danube flottila. Took part in defence of Stalingrad, Yashko-Kishniev (20.-29.08.1944), Budapest (29.10.1944 - 13.02.1945) and Vienna (16.03.-15.04.1945) attack operations.
19.01.1959 taken from combat list and requalified as training armoured gunboat. On 30.06.1959 mustered out of the VMF and given to Rovno DOSAAF club.
If you can read in Russian probably you will be interested with it.KACKO wrote:Thanks Tiso.
Just today morning I found web from which is your quote.Thanks again (as a Slovak who had Russian in school from my 10-14 years surprisingly I can still read it
).
Text Russian
ÖÀÌÎ ÐÔÏðèêàç êîìàíäóþùåãî Äóíàéñêîé âîåííîé ôëîòèëèåé êîìàíäèðàì ðå÷íûõ êîðàáëåé î âûñàäêå äåñàíòà íà ïðàâûé áåðåã Äóíàÿ è òðàëåíèè îïàñíûõ îò ìèí ðàéîíîâ ðåêè Äðàâà
25 íîÿáðÿ 1944 ãîäà
Âî èñïîëíåíèå çàäà÷, ïîñòàâëåííûõ äèðåêòèâîé 3 ÓÔ ¹ 00975/îï îò 24.11.44 ã., ïðèêàçûâàþ:
1. Êàïèòàíó Êåð÷åíñêîé áðèãàäû ðå÷íûõ êîðàáëåé êàïèòàíó 2-ãî ðàíãà Äåðæàâèíó Ï. È.:
à) ñîäåéñòâîâàòü ÷àñòÿì 57-é àðìèè âûñàäêå òàêòè÷åñêèõ äåñàíòîâ íà ïðàâûé áåðåã ð. Äóíàé ñåâåðíåå è þæíåå Áàòèíà è àðòèëëåðèéñêèì îãí¸ì ÁÊ (áðîíåêàòåðîâ) ïîääåðæèâàòü äåéñòâèÿ ÷àñòåé àðìèè â ýòîì ðàéîíå.  êà÷åñòâå äåñàíòíûõ âîéñê áóäåò èñïîëüçîâàíà 83-ÿ áðèãàäà ìîðñêîé ïåõîòû, ñ êîòîðîé îðãàíèçîâàòü âçàèìîäåéñòâèå äëÿ ðåøåíèÿ çàäà÷ äåñàíòà;
á) â äàëüíåéøåì äëÿ ðàñøèðåíèÿ ïëàöäàðìà íà ïðàâîì áåðåãó ð. Äóíàé îñíîâíûìè ñèëàìè áðîíåêàòåðîâ äåéñòâîâàòü ñîâìåñòíî ñ ÷àñòÿìè 4-é ãâàðäåéñêîé àðìèè ââåðõ ïî ð. Äóíàé äî óñòüÿ ð. Äðàâà;
â) äëÿ ðåøåíèÿ ïîñòàâëåííûõ çàäà÷ ñîñðåäîòî÷èòü ê èñõîäó 27.11.44 ã., äâåíàäöàòü áðîíåêàòåðîâ 1 ãâàðäåéñêîãî ÄÁÊ (äèâèçèîíà áðîíåêàòåðîâ) è 3 ÄÁÊ â ðàéîíå Áåçäàí.
Èìåòü ñ ñîáîé 1,5 çàïðàâêè ÃÑÌ è ïîëòîðà ÁÊ áîåçàïàñà.
Ïåðåõîä ñîâåðøèòü ïî ðåêå Òèñà è êàíàëó Êðàëÿ Ïåòðà;
ã) ÈÏÒÀÏ (èñòðåáèòåëüíî-ïðîòèâîòàíêîâûé ïîëê) áðèãàäû èìåòü ñ 26.11.44 ã. â Áåçäàí.
2. ÂÐÈÄ (âðåìåííî èñïîëíÿþùèé äîëæíîñòü) êîìàíäèðà 2-é Ñóëèíñêîé áðèãàäû ðå÷íûõ êîðàáëåé – êàïèòàí-ëåéòåíàíòó Âåëèêîìó:
à) ñèëàìè äèâèçèîíà áðîíåêàòåðîâ è äèâèçèîíà ìèíîì¸òíûõ êàòåðîâ ñîâìåñòíî ñ îòðÿäîì áåðåãîâîãî ñîïðîâîæäåíèÿ ÄÔ (Äóíàéñêîé ôëîòèëèè), âûñàäêàìè òàêòè÷åñêèõ äåñàíòîâ è àðòîãí¸ì ÁÊ è «ÐÑ» ÌÊ ñîäåéñòâîâàòü ÷àñòÿì 57-é À è 68 ñê 3 ÓÔ â íàïðàâëåíèè Íîâè Ñàä ââåðõ ïî ð. Äóíàé äî óñòüÿ ð. Äðàâà â öåëÿõ îáåñïå÷åíèÿ ðå÷íîãî ôëàíãà àðìèè;
á) äëÿ ðåøåíèÿ ïîñòàâëåííûõ çàäà÷ ê èñõîäó 24.11.44 ã. ñîñðåäîòî÷èòü â ðàéîíå Íîâè Ñàä äåñÿòü áðîíåêàòåðîâ è øåñòü ÌÊ, èìåòü 2 ÁÊ áîåçàïàñà è äâå çàïðàâêè ÃÑÌ;
â) øòàá 2 ÑÁÐÊ ñ 27.11.44 ã. – Íîâè Ñàä.
3. Êîìàíäèðó 83-é áðèãàäû ìîðñêîé ïåõîòû ïîëêîâíèêó Ñìèðíîâó:
à) çàêîí÷èòü ñîñðåäîòî÷åíèå ÷àñòåé áðèãàäû áåç 305 ÎÁÌÏ â ðàéîíå Êîëóò, Áà÷êà, Áðåã ê èñõîäó 25.11.44 ã.
Áûòü ãîòîâûì ê âûñàäêå äåñàíòîì ñ áðîíåêàòåðîâ –1-é Êåð÷åíñêîé Êðàñíîçíàì¸ííîé áðèãàäå ðå÷íûõ êîðàáëåé – íà ïðàâûé áåðåã ð. Äóíàé íà ó÷àñòêå ñåâåðíåå è þæíåå Áàòèíà;
á) àðòèëëåðèþ èñïîëüçîâàòü äëÿ ïîääåðæêè äåñàíòíûõ îïåðàöèé è äëÿ ïðèêðûòèÿ äåéñòâèé áðîíåêàòåðîâ;
â) øòàá áðèãàäû 25.11.44 ã. èìåòü â Êîëóò;
ã) 305 ÎÁÌÏ (îòäåëüíûé áàòàëüîí ìîðñêîé ïåõîòû) èìåòü â Íîâè Ñàä â ãîòîâíîñòè ê äâèæåíèþ â íàïðàâëåíèè Áà÷êà, Ïàëàíêà. Áàòàëüîíó áûòü ãîòîâûì ê âûñàäêå äåñàíòîì íà ïðàâûé áåðåã ð. Äóíàé âûøå Èëîê ñ áðîíåêàòåðîâ 2 ÑÁÐÊ.
4. Êîìàíäèðó ÁÎÑ (áåðåãîâîé îòðÿä ñîïðîâîæäåíèÿ) ìàéîðó Çèäðà:
ñ 25.11. 44 ã. âûéòè èç îïåðàòèâíîãî ïîä÷èíåíèÿ êîìàíäèðà 1 ÊÊÁÐÊ.
Àðòèëëåðèè ÁÎÑ è ÷àñòÿò ìîðñêîé ïåõîòû ïîääåðæèâàòü äåéñòâèÿ áðîíåêàòåðîâ è 305 ÎÁÌÏ 83 áðèãàäû ÌÏ (ìîðñêîé ïåõîòû) â íàïðàâëåíèè îò Èëîê ââåðõ íà ð. Äóíàé.
5. Ñòàðøåìó ìîðñêîìó íà÷àëüíèêó â Áåëãðàäå êàïèòàíó 2 ðàíãà Ïàâëîâó:
ïðîäîëæàòü òðàëåíèå è ãèäðîãðàôè÷åñêîå îáåñïå÷åíèå ïåðåïðàâ âîéñê â ðàéîíå Áåëãðàä, Íîâè Ñàä ñîãëàñíî áîåâîìó ðàñïîðÿæåíèå øòàáà ÄÔ îò 19.11.44 ã.
6. Êîìàíäèðó áðèãàäû òðàëåíèÿ êàïèòàíó 3 ðàíãà Îõðèìåíêî:
à) ïðîäîëæàòü òðàëåíèå îïàñíûõ îò ìèí ðàéîíîâ ð. Äóíàé íà ó÷àñòêå:
Òóðíó–Ñåâåðèí, Áåëãðàä, Íîâè Ñàä è âûøå ïî ð. Äóíàé ïî ìåðå ïðîäâèæåíèÿ ôðîíòà è ïðîâîäêó êàðàâàíà ñóäîâ çà òðàëàìè â îñîáî îïàñíûõ îò ìèí ðàéîíàõ;
á) îáåñïå÷èòü òðàëåíèåì äåéñòâèÿ áðîíåêàòåðîâ 1 è 2 ÁÐÊ.
7. Äëÿ îòðàáîòêè âçàèìîäåéñòâèÿ ñ ÷àñòÿìè àðìèè íàçíà÷èòü îôèöåðàìè ñâÿçè: â øòàáå 57 À – êàïèòàíà 3 ðàíãà Ïîïîâà; ïðè øòàáå 4-é ãâàðäåéñêîé àðìèè – ìàéîðà Ñóëîÿíîâà.
Ïîëó÷åíèå ïîäòâåðäèòü, èñïîëíåíèå äîíåñòè ê 18.00 28.11.44 ã.
Êîìàíäóþùèé ÄÔ
âèöå-àäìèðàë Ñ. Ãîðøêîâ
×ëåí Âîåííîãî ñîâåò
Êàïèòàí 1 ðàíãà Ìàòóøêèí
Çàì. íà÷àëüíèêà øòàáà ÄÔ
Êàïèòàí 2 ðàíãà Çàãðåáèí
Ôîíä 243, îïèñü 2900, äåëî 243, ëèñò 69-72. Çàâåðåííàÿ êîïèÿ.
ÐÀ. ÂÎÂ. òîì 14-3(2), Ñ. 254-255
Text English
ÖÀÌÎ THE RUSSIAN FEDERATIONThe order of the commander the Danube military flotilla to commanders of the river ships about landing of troops on the right coast of Danube and òðàëåíèè areas of the river Drava dangerous from mines
On November, 25, 1944
In the performance of the tasks put by the instruction 3 UF (Ukrainen front) ¹ 00975/îï from 24.11.44, I order:
1. To captain Kerchenskoj of a brigade of the river ships to the captain of 2-nd rank Derzhavin P.I.:
a) To promote parts of 57-th Army to landing of tactical landings to the right coast r. Danube to the north and to the south Batin and artillery fire AB (armored boat) to support actions of parts of army in this area. As landing armies the brigade of sea infantry with which to organize interaction for the decision of tasks of a landing will be used 83-n;
b) Further for expansion of jumping-off place on the right to coast ð. Danube armored boat to operate with the basic forces together with parts of 4-th Guards Army upwards on r. Danube up to a mouth r. Drava;
c) For the decision of tasks in view to concentrate by an outcome of 27.11.44, twelve armored boat 1 Guards Division AB (battalion armored boat) and 3th DAB in area Bezdan.
To have with itself 1,5 refuellings of the PETROLEUM PRODUCTS and one and a half BK fighting stock.
Transition to make on the river Tisa and of the Peter's Kralja channel;
d) IPTAP (fighter anti-tank regiment - Yuri) brigades to have from 26.11.44 in Bezdan.
2. VRID (temporarily borrowing post - Yuri) the commander of 2-nd Sulinskaja brigades of the river ships – to the captain - lieutenant Velikij:
a) Forces of a battalion the Armored boat and a battalion mortar ìèíîì¸òíûõ boats together with group of coastal support DF (Danube flotilla), landings of tactical landings and artillery fire AB and "ÐÑ" MK (mortar boat) to promote parts of 57-th A and 68 RC (rifle corps) 3 UF in direction Novi Sad upwards on r. Danube up to a mouth r. Drava with a view of maintenance of river flank of army;
b) For the decision of tasks in view by an outcome of 24.11.44 to concentrate in area Novi Sad ten armored boat and six MK (mortar boat - Yuri), to have 2 BK (The fighting complete set – Yuri) fighting stock and two refuellings of the PETROLEUM PRODUCTS;
c) A staff 2th SBRK (Sulin armored river boat – Yuri) since 27.11.44 – Novi Sad.
3. To the commander of 83-rd brigade of sea infantry to colonel Smirnov:
a) To finish a concentration of parts of a brigade without 305 OBMP (separate battalion of sea infantry) in area Kolut, Bachka, Breg by an outcome of 25.11.44.
To be a landing ready to landing with armored boat-1-nd Kerchenskaja Krasnoznamennaja Brigade of the River Ships – on the right coast r. Danube on a site to the north and to the south Batin;
b) Artillery to use for support of landing operations and for covering actions armored boat;
c) A staff of a brigade of 25.11.44 to have in Kolut;
d) 305 OBMP (Otdel’nyj Batal’on Morskoj Pechoty - Separate Battalion of Sea Infantry) to have in Novi Sad in readiness for movement in direction Bachka, Palanka. To a battalion to be a landing ready to landing to the right coast r. Danube is higher Ilok with armored boat 2th SBRK (Sulin Brigade River Ship).
4. To the commander it is BOS (beregovoj otrjad soprovozhdenija- coastal group of support) to major Zidra:
from 25.11.44 to leave from operative submission of the commander 1 KKBRK (Kerch Krasnoznamennaja Brigade River Ship).
Artilleries it is BOS and units sea infantry to support actions armored boat and 305 OBMP (SBSI) 83 Brigade MP (Sea Infantry) in a direction from Ilok upwards on r. Danube.
5. To the senior sea chief in Belgrade to the captain 2 ranks Pavlow:
to continue òðàëåíèå and hydrographic maintenance of ferries of armies in area Belgrade, Novi Sad according to fighting the order of staff DF from 19.11.44.
6. To the commander of a brigade òðàëåíèÿ to the captain 3 ranks Ochrimenko:
a) To continue òðàëåíèå dangerous areas from mines r. Danube on a site:
Turnu-Severin, Belgrade, Novi Sad and is higher on r. Danube on a measure of promotion of front and posting of a caravan of courts behind trawls in especially dangerous areas from mines;
b) To provide trawl actions armored boat 1 and 2 BRK (Brigade River Ship).
7. For improvement of interaction with parts of army to appoint officers of communication: in a staff 57 A – the captain 3 ranks Popow; at a staff of 4-th Guards army – major Sulojanov.
Reception to confirm, execution to inform to 18.0028.11.44.
Commander DF
vice-admiral S.Gorshkov
Member of the Militarian council
The captain of 1 rank Mashutkin
The deputy the chief of staff DF
The captain 2 ranks Zagrebin
fund 243, inventory 2900, file 243, sheet 69-72. The certified copy.
RA. GPW. vol. 14-3 (2), S. 254-255
Were those ships used in combant? For now I only found remark, that they were sent to Izmail base ( I think).
I red that Romanian Danube fleet used former czechoslovak armored mine layer OMn35? which was after marcg of 1939 used by Germans and later went to Romania???
BTW against soviet fleet Germans used gun boat Bechelaren, which was former czechoslovak President Masarycj, after WWII were returned to Czechoslovakia, but never served again and later was unfortunately scraped.
I red that Romanian Danube fleet used former czechoslovak armored mine layer OMn35? which was after marcg of 1939 used by Germans and later went to Romania???
BTW against soviet fleet Germans used gun boat Bechelaren, which was former czechoslovak President Masarycj, after WWII were returned to Czechoslovakia, but never served again and later was unfortunately scraped.
The Romanian ships were indeed sent to Ismail, where they were seized by the Soviets on 1-2 September 1944. The Soviets seized 5 monitors, 7 torpedo-boats, 2 command ships, 38 patrol boats and various other auxiliary ships. As a sidenote, the Soviets also took the ships of the Romanian Black Sea Fleet: 4 destroyers, 2 torpedo-boats, 3 gunboats, 2 submarines, 2 minelayers, a submarine base ship, 7 MTBs, 3 submarine hunters, 3 PTAs, etc.
The ex-Romanian Danube ships received Russian names and crews and were used on the Danube to support the ground operations until the end of the war. The Romanian monitors were the most important ships used by the Soviets during these missions.
The ex-Romanian Danube ships received Russian names and crews and were used on the Danube to support the ground operations until the end of the war. The Romanian monitors were the most important ships used by the Soviets during these missions.