CRETE after invasion

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CRETE after invasion

Post by martin13666 » 13 Dec 2006 20:07

Is there any information what happened on Crete later in the war 1942-42.
Any pictures?

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Post by Sarge » 02 Jan 2007 10:03

There isn't much available altho there have been several books written by citizens of Kreta. Unfortunately they are all in Greek and about impossible to find. There were several among the displays at a warehouse down in the Dock area of Malme(?) for the 50th aniversary in Mai 90. Somewhere i have the list that I wrotedown so I could look for them - Ha!
You might buy the very propagandized movie the Eleventh Day about the Kretian resistance.
Interesting movie, actually filmed on Kreta, but way to much propaganda and historical inaccuracies!!!!
According to the film the partisans fought Fallschirmjägers from late Mai 40 till the Germans abandoned the island in 44.
What a bunch of B.S.!!!
The Fj u. Gj were gone from Kreta within about a month of the end of the British resistance and the occupation forces were 2nd u. 3rd echlon German Army troops.
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Post by faf_476 » 02 Jan 2007 12:44

Germans forcibly abandond this island coz they were outnumbered and the island was sorrounded by the Allies, that's how crete after the Invasion!!

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Post by Sarge » 03 Jan 2007 07:10

After the Germans lost North Afrika they really had no tactical reason to keep Kreta, especially so since it was not garrisoned with a strong enuf force to cause the Allies any problems - as had been the case with the British on Malta - but they hung onto it for another year anyway.
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Post by edward_n_kelly » 03 Jan 2007 08:27

Have a look at the book Ill Met by Moonlight covers the interaction of the British Commandoes and the Creteans (and the conditions of the latter).

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Post by gewehrdork » 07 Jan 2007 03:29

Try as well Anthny Beevor's book on crete. It deals with alot of the post para capture of crete's partisans. No love lost between them and the occupying germans.... no quarter asked and none given.

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Post by martin13666 » 07 Jan 2007 17:03

Thanks Sarge, for that much. I am interested in material, that reflects at least some truth. And I am absolutely not interested in
clear propaganda and fantasies of modern (or not that modern) authors.
Does anybody know any trustworthy memoirs about the area?
And Sarge- as much as I can remember, german bombers had radius long enough for bombing Suez from Crete.Wasnt it worth keeping the island?

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Post by edward_n_kelly » 08 Jan 2007 02:12

Amongst other things, Crete allowed them to dominate the Aegean which in turn “encouraged” Turkey from entering the war on the Allies side. It prevented Allied aircraft from getting that much closer to the oil fields of Romania and the Danube (the 'Iron Gates" were one of the strategic "choke points" for both logistic supplies to the East and for the flow of raw material to the West....).

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Post by phylo_roadking » 21 Jun 2007 00:54

"Ill met by moonlight" counts as pretty accurate, its Paddy Leigh Fermor's own account of the capture and spiriting away of Gen. Kriepke. There's a pretty good B&W feature film based on the book, of the same title.

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Post by phylo_roadking » 29 Jun 2007 23:08

Time to edit the above lol

"Ill met by moonlight" counts as pretty accurate, its Paddy Leigh Fermor's role in of the capture and spiriting away of Gen. Kreipe written by Bill Stanley Moss, his number two in the operation. There's a pretty good B&W feature film based on the book, of the same title.

Paddy also tranlsated and had published "The Cretan Runner" by George Psychoundakis, a messenger for the resistance during the war. Penguin 1980 ISBN 0-140-27322-0

The introduction to the book also mentions a number of other books published by those involved, including "The Stronghold" by Xan Feilding, later Head of SOE for the entire eastern Med and first British commander operating in the White Mountains area of Crete. Sandy Rendel - Cyril Cusack's smelly "Sandy" in "Ill Met By Moonlight" - later worked for the Times and published "Appointment in Crete".

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German and Italian Occupation Forces in Crete

Post by asiaticus » 30 Jun 2007 05:41

German and Italian Occupation Forces in Crete

The initial invasion was by Student's XI Air Corps:

4/41 - 12/42 12th Army
5/41 - 6/41 XI Air Corps (Opn Merkur) *
5/41 - 6/41 7th Airborne Division
5/41 - 6/41 5th Mountain Division
5/41 - 6/41 ? Mountain Infantry Regiment, 6th Mountain Division
5/41 - 6/41 31st Panzer Regiment

The Italians sent the 51st Siena Division from Rhodes.


Initially the occupation forces were the Italian 51st Siena Division under 11th Army (Supreme Command Greece) 6/41 - 9/43

6/41 - 9/43 51st Siena Division (Crete)

From 10/41 - 12/41 the German 713th Infantry Division joined the occupation under 12th Army.


1/42 the German 12th Army established the Military Commander Southern Greece. Under its jurisdiction was the Peloponese and Crete. On Crete it commanded Fortress Region Crete 1/42 - 12/42 and from 7/42 - 12/42 22nd Airlanding Division and at some point before 1943 the 125th Infantry Regiment


In January 1943 the defense of Greece was reogainzed and strengthened due to the victory of the Allies in North Africa.


Italy increased the 11th Army garrrison on Crete by :
1/43 - 9/43 LI Infantry Brigade (Crete)
1/43 - 9/43 L Coastal Brigade (Crete)
1/43 - 9/43 19th CCNN Battalion

The Germans established Army Group E 1/43 - 5/45 and under its command controled Crete thru the Military Commander Crete from 1/43 till the evacuation of Greece in 9/44.


Military Commander Crete commanded these units:
1/43 - 2/43 11th Air Force Field Division
1/43 - 9/44 22nd Infantry Division (former 22nd Airlanding Division)
1/43 - 2/44 Fortress Region Crete (Crete) *
2/44 - 9/44 133. Fortress Division (Crete) (Crete) *
2/43 - 9/44 Army Coast Artillery Regiment "Kreta" (Crete) *
2/43 - 9/44 520 Marine Artillery Abteilung (Crete) *


Fortress Region "Kreta" (Crete1/42 - 2/44 )
1/42 - 11/42 1st Kreta Fortress Brigade (from elements of 713 division)
2/42 - 2/44 2nd Kreta Fortress Brigade
1/42 - 1/42 440th Fortress Regiment "Kreta"
1/42 - 1/42 Fortress Artillery Regiment "Kreta"
1/42 - 1/42 Pionier Battalion "Kreta"


In August 1943 the Italian Units were disarmed and interned when Italy surrendered.

In February 1944 the 133 Fortress Division replaced Fortress Region "Kreta"
133. Fortress Division (Crete 2/44 - 5/45)
* 733. Fortress Grenadier Regiment
* 746. Fortress Grenadier Regiment
* 212. Panzer Battalion (2/44 - 12/44)
* "Kreta" Panzer Battalion (1/45 - 5/45 )
* 133. Engineer Battalion
* 832. Sicherungs Battallion
* 833. Sicherungs Battallion
* 619th Artillery Regiment

After the evacuation of Greece the German units left to block the Agean Sea including Crete were commaned by Military Commander East Aegaeis, headquarted on Rhodes from 9/44 - 5/45. From 10/44 the remaining German Naval and Luftwaffe units on Crete were consolidated under 133. Fortress Division:


After the evacuation of Greece 9/44 these separate units were added to 133. Fortress Division:
* Army Coast Artillery Regiment "Kreta"
* 520 Marine Artillery Abteilung
* Marine Grenadier Battalion "Kreta"
*Luftwaffe Grenadier Battalion "Kreta"

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