Doppel schartenstand

[jopaerya]

Hello All

This doppelschartenstand build in the 1 Army area ,
it looks a lot like the ones build in Normandie .

Photo = S.H.M. Vincennes

Regards Jos

[erik1939-1945]

hello jos, and all others of course

you will also find such a "Doppelschartenstand" aswell in norway, used for shore defence with a 5 cm KwK.
Build In Vf - with a connection trench and a small shletre in addition.

greetings

erik R

[bunker14]

Hi jos

it's a VF model????



wn.82 Maisy



yours

Ben

[Bo2]

Bonjour
it's Sa 17 ,and if you look well, just in front the scharten you can see a R600 !
I think it was built first and they make Doppelschartenstand after to protect KwK
I have seen same at Nz 1 and Ar 48
JF

[jopaerya]

Thank you all for your awnser's , so this model is not a local
design , but build along different part of the Atlantikwall .

Regards Jos

[der bunkermann]

hi jos, even in holland there where 2 doppelschartenstande built in KVA schagen!
for sure one in VB den helder, and i believe one in callantsoog
gr. tim

[jopaerya]

Hi

Does somebody have a drawing of these bunker ,
with the entrance on the side of the bunker like the
one at Sa 17 and Normandie or other places .

Regards Jos

[der bunkermann]

hi all,
here's the drawing of the one in stp. gr. callantsoog.
it was built in WN 23 and holds baunr. 3332.
it's not quite the same as the one on the picture,
one side has the KWK scharte, (covering the north side) the other side is for an MG.
the entrance is quite the same do.
in my opinion this is the most beautiful bunker built in holland....
it's sad that 99%\ of the flanking bunkers in holland are gone
gr. tim

[jopaerya]

Hello Tim

This is really a beauty , thanks

Regards Jos

[der bunkermann]

by the way, in the dawa sonderband 5 there's also some nice information and drawings about these bunkers.

is there anyone who knows if there were more of these built in holland?
would be nice to make some sort of database........
gr, tim

i wonder how the drawings of these bunkers where spread along the atlantikwall?
should that been done by the fest. pioniere? or wehrgeologen?
they where the ones who decided what bunker should be built where right?

[Bo2]

There is 2 other
Wn 82 at Géfosse in Normandy with a tobrouk add (not include but add)
Av ? plage St Marguerite without tobrouk
Ar 48 and Nz 1 are without tobrouk
I don't remember where but in my archive I have one draw of a doppelschartenstande with a tobrouk for Ft17 on the seaside
I'll look tomorow if nobody put it on topic
JF

[Bo2]

I found, hope this can help you

[der bunkermann]

looks very nice!
amazingly small entrance to the tobruk!
gr, tim

[jopaerya]

Hi JF

Thanks for the drawings , these are all from the 7Army
area , do you have a drawing of the ones at the 1 Army ?
Thanks you in advance

Regards Jos

[Bo2]

Bonjour Jos
No sorry, no draw, perhaps the we I'll go to Ar and I'll look to take draw
JF