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Re: Doppel schartenstand

Post by jopaerya » 06 Sep 2012 19:44

Hello

Most of the Doppelschartenstanden I have seen were build in the coastline of the A.W.
but in St Nazaire a quit a few Doppelschartenstanden were build in the landdefences
( Landfront ) was this also on other places ?

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Re: Doppel schartenstand

Post by patrick fleuridas » 17 Dec 2012 18:55

Hello

Doppel schartenstand in festung Saint-Nazaire:
At Nz 1 pointe de Congrigoux:
Nz 1_02 2004_SK double 5 cm (2).JPG
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Re: Doppel schartenstand

Post by JKernwerk » 17 Dec 2012 20:47

Hi Jos, IJmuiden had at least one doppelschartenständ for 5cm KwK L60 in the Northern Landfront, it was situated in an Panzermauer.
You can read about it in Ruud Pols his book about the Landfront of the Festung IJmuiden.
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Re: Doppel schartenstand

Post by jopaerya » 17 Dec 2012 21:05

Thanks Jack and Patrick

Found the drawing in the book from Ruud , so not only in St Nazaire .

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Re: Doppel schartenstand

Post by AvB » 17 Dec 2012 23:39

Don't know if this one was ever built? Design from OT-Einsatzgruppe Italien.
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Re: Doppel schartenstand

Post by jbb20p7 » 19 Dec 2012 15:14

Hello

An archive picture ... perharps near Grandcamp Maisy

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Source Ebay.de

According with camouflage drawing on the wall, it's the same one , located at WN81, near "Le Joncal" 300mètres from Grandcamp maisy harbour

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Source - Ph F

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Re: Doppel schartenstand

Post by patrick fleuridas » 19 Dec 2012 18:52

Hi

Another doppel in Saint-Nazaire area, at Nz 20, La Courance.
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Nz 20_6_01_06.JPG
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Re: Doppel schartenstand

Post by Manuferey » 19 Dec 2012 23:29

jbb20p7 wrote:Hello

An archive picture ... perharps near Grandcamp Maisy

According with camouflage drawing on the wall, it's the same one , located at WN81, near "Le Joncal" 300mètres from Grandcamp maisy harbour

Bye :wink:
Jb
Nice find, jb! 8-)

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Re: Doppel schartenstand

Post by Manuferey » 19 Dec 2012 23:44

jopaerya wrote:Hello

This looks like a Scharte for a Doppelschartenstand .

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Photo = Ebay.usa
This is the same Doppelschatenstand as this one below also at Grancamp-Maisy according to the US caption! 8-) Photo USAAF/NARA.

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Re: Doppel schartenstand

Post by jopaerya » 20 Dec 2012 10:33

Thanks for all your imput

I think we have different kind of Doppel schartenstanden

Doppelschartenstanden fur 5 cm K.w.K. ( most build )
Doppelschartenstanden fur PaK ( drawing Arthur Italy )
Doppelschartenstanden fur LaG ( for instance the local version 219 )

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Re: Doppel schartenstand

Post by dirk Peeters » 20 Dec 2012 12:01

What about the 669 doppel ande the 612 Doppel at ile de ré ?
local LAG i presume
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Re: Doppel schartenstand

Post by der bunkermann » 20 Dec 2012 19:55

Hi Jos, in scheveningen there were a couple of d. Schartenstande for m.g., on the boulevard.
They were built early in the war and had walls in ''bruckenmauerstein'' (basaltstenen) of 50 cm. Thickness, ''und durfen nicht in fuhreratlas erscheinen''
One of these was built to the remains of the wandelhoofd wilhelmina, and is depicted in ''van verdediging naar bescherming''.

In north holland there was also d. Schartenstand for kwk and mg, i think there is a drawing of that one somewhere in a old topic. (Edit: it's in this topic:-) )

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Re: Doppel schartenstand

Post by Manuferey » 06 Mar 2013 02:20

Biville (Manche) again, this time seen from an ultralight:

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Re: Doppel schartenstand

Post by jopaerya » 28 Apr 2020 11:05

Couild this a 5 cm KwK in a Doppelschartenstand , because you the opening on the right to
rotate the gun to the other Scharten . According to the PK photo this should be Holland.
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Re: Doppel schartenstand

Post by JKernwerk » 28 Apr 2020 11:18

If it is Holland, It is a special photo.
Not much DS were made in Holland.
If we do not count AOK 15 only 2 to 4 were made.
There are some nice drawings in the NIOD.
JK

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