Oberst i.G. Kurt von Einem

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Oberst i.G. Kurt von Einem

Post by Jan-Hendrik » 30 Mar 2007 08:41

Stammtruppenteil:

Reiterregiment 6

1924 Fähnrich

Ia of 253. ID and 75. ID till autumn 1942

After that Chef d. Stabes LIV. AK

Führerreserve

Reactivated by Oberst Hax he took over PzGrenRgt. 28 on 14th February 1945

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Georg Gunter Letzter Lorbeer, page 334/35

Who can clarify the dates for Einem's commands?

Any decorations noted?

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Post by Phil Nix » 30 Mar 2007 11:46

Is this the same man as the son of Curt von Einem SS-Of. 20.4.39 Born 31.12.1880 died 25.10.1939
If so he was born in Hannover 26.9.1907 I have him as beim Gen.Stab LIV. Armeekorps 1943 - 1944 then beim Generalstab XXXIX. Gebirgskorps 1944 - 8,1944 Transferred to the Waffen-SS as SS-Staf. der Reserve mit Wirkung 1.1.43 he was only a temporary transfer and he did not joined the Allgemeine SS and did not get an SS-Nr.; Chef des Generalstabes XIII. SS-Armeekorps 7.8.1944 - 13.1.45 (Succeeded Ekkehard A|lbert). After the war he served in the Bundeswehr rising to the rank of Brigadegeneral
Here is a pic of him as SS-Staf. Any extra data would be helpful
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Von Einem

Post by harmel » 30 Mar 2007 11:47

Hi J H,
Reiter-Rgt. 6 (nicht Kp.Chef geworden).
Born 8/2/1904 Promoted Oberst 1/1/1943 (85)
Awards: EK II 18/5/40, EK I 31/5/1940
DKiG-19/12/1942 as Obstlt. and Ia 75. Inf.Div.
03/10/40 - Nov 42 Ia 75. Inf.Div.
10/12/42 Chef des Generalstabes LIV. AK, umbenannt in Armee-Abtlg. Narwa.
05/04/44 Führer-Reserve
30/05/44 Chef des Generalstabes XXXXIX. Geb.K.
05/08/44 - 13/01/45 kommandiert als Chef des Generalstabes zum XIII. SS-Geb.K.
05/01/45 Führer Reserve OKH, Dienst regelt Chef P3
10/02/45 Dienst regelt Ag P 1.

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 30 Mar 2007 12:05

Gentlemen:

Absolutly outstanding! Thank you!

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Einem

Post by harmel » 30 Mar 2007 12:06

Nice pic Phil thanks for that
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Post by Phil Nix » 30 Mar 2007 12:18

Here is his father
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Post by Dieter Zinke » 30 Mar 2007 14:28

Here is Brigadegeneral (02.03.1959) Kurt von Einem
* 08.02.1904 Saarburg
+ 04.09.1987 Göttingen

01.01.1943 Oberst i.G.
Chef des Generalstabs LIV. AK
Chef des Generalstabs Armeeabteilung Narwa
Chef des Generalstabs XXXXIX. Geb.K.
Chef des Generalstabs XIII. SS-Armeekorps (01.08.1944 - 09.01.1945)

01.05.1962 - 31.03.1964 Kommandeur der 12. Panzerdivision Tauberbischofsheim

1960 witness in the Max Simon-case (Landgericht Ansbach): "Simon was a strenuous (tüchtig) and decent (anständig) soldier!"

Pic and career according Biblio "Die Generale und Admirale der Bundeswehr".

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 30 Mar 2007 14:41

My small addition for his BW-Career:

1956/57 as Oberst Leiter der Annahme im Wehrbereich II/ Freiwilligenannahmestelle NORD

1.7.59- 30.6.62 Stellverteter und Kommandeur der Divisionstruppen 6.Panzergrenadierdivision (by the way: succeeded by Oberst Adolf von Salviati :wink: )

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Reinhard Teuber Die Bundeswehr 1955-1995 Band 5 Schriftenreihe Führung und Truppe

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 31 Mar 2007 17:18

I want to attract attention to the outstanding pic posted by Phil Nix.

There von Einem shows the collar patches of a SS-Standartenführer, but evidently he was never promoted to this rank, and - to my knowledge - he is not listed in any DAL of the Waffen-SS as SS-Staf.

I can' t imagine that he could succeed in overcoming the difficulties against the "Personal-Gutachter-Ausschuss" (personal censor committee) of the Bundeswehr being a former SS-Standartenführer.

So I want to assume that he was
”für die Dauer der Kommandierung berechtigt zum Tragen der Uniform eines Standartenrführers der Waffen-SS”
(he was justified to wear the uniform of a SS-Standartenführer during the length of his delegation to his command).

I want to hear the opinion of our experts here :|

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Post by Phil Nix » 01 Apr 2007 11:00

He was one of the army officers temporarily transferred to the Waffen SS due to that arm having a shortage of trained staff officers,They did not joined the SS but wore SS rank badges Here is a document from Jost Schneider which show there names and which shows those who actuaqlly joined and those who were only temporary
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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 09 Apr 2007 20:30

DKiG 19.12.42 as Ia/75. ID

Kdr. of PGR 28 till 23.03.45

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Re: Oberst i.G. Kurt von Einem

Post by smetanin albert » 05 Feb 2016 16:00

Witness's testimonies
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Re: Oberst i.G. Kurt von Einem

Post by Jan-Hendrik » 05 Feb 2016 18:18

And again, Heike& his transfer to WSS! He had an SS-Karteikarte!

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Re: Oberst i.G. Kurt von Einem

Post by Dieter Zinke » 05 Feb 2016 19:11

It's remarkable how easily he could join the Bundeswehr, regardless of the Personalgutachter-Ausschuss [Personal Verification Committee].
According https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS ... _nach_1961 :
Nach der Wiederbewaffnung blieb die neu gegründete Bundeswehr ehemaligen höheren Offizieren der Waffen-SS oberhalb des Dienstranges des Hauptsturmführers (entspricht dem Rang eines Hauptmannes) verschlossen.
A takeover in permanent employment was forbidden in the Bundeswehr for former SS-officers above of SS-Hauptsturmführer!

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Re: Oberst i.G. Kurt von Einem

Post by histan » 05 Feb 2016 20:49

His entry in the "Handliste" shows him "kdrt" (kommandiert or in English attached) - as does the list above.
it also shows him:
15.01.1945 FR D.r. Chef P3 (duties assigned by Head of the P3 branch of the HPA)
10.02.1945 D.r Ag P1 (duties assigned by P1 branch of the HPA - no longer a Generalstabsoffizier but assigned for troop command)
His "Generalskartei" shows him
28.01.1945 FR OKH D.r. OB West z.V. als Rgt.F.hr
11.02.1945 Kdr. Pz.Gren.Rgt. 28

All of this could have been used to argue that he was a member of the army throughout and was "attached" rather than "transferred" (no mention of "vesetzt") to the Waffen SS.

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