Cherbourg Radarstellung on French battery

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Cherbourg Radarstellung on French battery

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Post by SES » 03 Apr 2007 08:24

Hi Alain,
Thanks for sharing these most unusual photos. I have never seen a similar site before. My overall assessment is that this is a Funkstör or maybe a Funk Horch Stellung. The Freya like device is NOT a Freya, both the cabin and the antenna are wrong. It is somewhat similar to the Karl jammer, but not quite identical. The line of identical buildings (they actually look like bunkers) with identical antennas in a row is typical of these sites. All services and the Abwehr had these types of sites in France. I am no uniform expert, but it looks like a Luftwaffe site. Bottom line it is a fine find, F. Trenkle would have been envious.
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Post by Chazette » 03 Apr 2007 09:39

is NOT a Freya, both the cabin and the antenna are wrong

but why Germann put Wrong antenna Is not realist !!?

i don't know Funk Horch Stellung what is it thank to put foto to explane me please because i'am not expert on this thing
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Post by Leif » 03 Apr 2007 10:25

Hi,
at first, there are two "Geräte" on the two pictures.
The Antenna on brette11.jpg seems to be a normal antenna with 6 Dipoles in the upper row. I cannot see more.

The brette10.jpg shows a type of "some of the Freya-Family". It could be an early type of Freya, but the Drehstandsgeäuse and the Hubgerüst are quite strange.

If the poles are in connection with the antenna in Front, SES could be right with the Proposal of a Funkstöreinrichtung.
@ AC: You can change the antenna for special frequencies.

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Post by SES » 03 Apr 2007 10:38

Hi,
What I tried to say is it is not a Freya, because it is not a Freya cabin nor a Freya antenna.
A Funk Horch Stellung listened for allied transmissions with the aim of collecting operational and tactical intelligence. Both the allies and the Germans performed this sort of activity. Considerable information was obtained in this way concerning planned and on going operations, order of battle and procedures. If the transmission were in code, a special department was tasked to break the code and present the messages in clear text.
Judging from the length of the dipoles on the masts, this part of the site listened for allied transmissions in the VHF band i.e. aircraft transmissions.
Hope this helps - if not please ask again.
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Post by SES » 03 Apr 2007 12:08

Hi,
I checked Nacqueville in Hoffmann, he does not mention the location. Maybe Jos can help establish the location.
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Post by Chazette » 03 Apr 2007 13:15

See the Map with Nacqueville battery with antrenna
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Post by SES » 03 Apr 2007 14:55

Hi,
Hoffmann does not mention a site at that location, but he only covers FuS and FuMB sites fragmentarily. I'll check Trenkle to-night.
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Post by jopaerya » 03 Apr 2007 16:16

Hello All

According to Hoffmann there was a "Funkdorf" near Urville-Haque
that is not far from the Fort , it looks also that the big guy on the
photo is Gen. Feldm. H. Sperrle .

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Post by jopaerya » 03 Apr 2007 17:25

Found some more , photo of the Fort on 18 june heavy bombarded
this is the only place in the Cherbourg area on the arial pictures that
was so bombarded .
According to Hoffmann the four stellungen used for Funkaufklarung,
-beobachtung und - störung were bombarded , Mont de Couple at 02-06
Urville-Haque and Beamont-Haque 31-05 and 01-06 , Berneval-le Grand
at 02-06 and 03-06 .

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Post by SES » 03 Apr 2007 20:19

Hi Alain.
The pannel of experts is ready for your next mystery.
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Post by Chazette » 03 Apr 2007 20:59

Hi Alain.
The pannel of experts is ready for your next mystery.
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Post by jopaerya » 04 Apr 2007 08:35

Hello All

Not 100% sure but the "Funkdorf" at
Urville-Haque hade the codename Castor .

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Post by moonraker » 04 Apr 2007 16:26

hi all,

small question? croyer you that it is to bombard this position for one or two radar to install, me I believe that on this place, there was to be a battery, because on the spot one finds two command post of the type VF.
and other with dimensions of the road two other too. for information: while going towards grèville, on the plate, the SHM mentions station of listering.

Conclusion on 600 m in top of the plate, there are four command post VF.
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Post by SES » 04 Apr 2007 16:33

Hi,
The sites were bombed from the air in the week leading up to the invasion. The radio traffic, the amount, the nature and the position of the transmitters would have been intercepted by these sites. This would have compromised the time and location of the invasion even if the Germans were unable to understand or de-code the transmissions. Hence the sites had to be "out of business".
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