Hybrid Panther - information
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Hybrid Panther - information
Hi all,
with my friends we are looking for pictures of Sd.Kfz V Panther Ausf.D ( our link http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12080 ) and we have photo from internet with very strange Panther ......the turret is from Ausf.D , but tank hull is from Ausf.G ?
Don´t you know more ?
Thanks Arhad
with my friends we are looking for pictures of Sd.Kfz V Panther Ausf.D ( our link http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12080 ) and we have photo from internet with very strange Panther ......the turret is from Ausf.D , but tank hull is from Ausf.G ?
Don´t you know more ?
Thanks Arhad
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Arhad,
There's at least another photo, showing 11th PD tanks in the Western Front, which shows an Ausf G with the Ausf D "drum" cupola. Not sure what the explanation would be, but it seems likely an Ausf D with a damaged hull and an Ausf G with a destroyed turret were matched to produce a usable tank.
best regards
Aris Kosionidis
There's at least another photo, showing 11th PD tanks in the Western Front, which shows an Ausf G with the Ausf D "drum" cupola. Not sure what the explanation would be, but it seems likely an Ausf D with a damaged hull and an Ausf G with a destroyed turret were matched to produce a usable tank.
best regards
Aris Kosionidis
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The turret on the hybrid panther in the first post may not have come from a Panther Ausf. D. The "dust bin" type copula was also used on a number of early Panther Ausf. As, see Jentz's Panzer Tract 5-2.
Having written this, I do believe its very possible a Ausf D turret was recycled and installed Ausf. G chassis. There are at least one picture of a 11 Pz.Div. Panther wreck with a "dust bin" copula and what looks like the outline of a communication port half covered by spare track links. The communication port was only found on early Ausf D turrets. There was a long debate about this hybrid Panther several years ago on Missing Lynx,
Having written this, I do believe its very possible a Ausf D turret was recycled and installed Ausf. G chassis. There are at least one picture of a 11 Pz.Div. Panther wreck with a "dust bin" copula and what looks like the outline of a communication port half covered by spare track links. The communication port was only found on early Ausf D turrets. There was a long debate about this hybrid Panther several years ago on Missing Lynx,
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I remember a pic on Squadron's "Panther In Action" book of a captured German firm with a plenty of turret scratched from damaged Panthers, waiting to be installed on new/recovered/repaired hulls...
I also remember to have seen somewhere pics of Panthers with different Zimmerit patterns for hull and turred, due to this "matching pratice".
I'll try to post them in the next days.
Regards
Zub
I also remember to have seen somewhere pics of Panthers with different Zimmerit patterns for hull and turred, due to this "matching pratice".
I'll try to post them in the next days.
Regards
Zub
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zubdakabuz wrote:I remember a pic on Squadron's "Panther In Action" book of a captured German firm with a plenty of turret scratched from damaged Panthers, waiting to be installed on new/recovered/repaired hulls...
I also remember to have seen somewhere pics of Panthers with different Zimmerit patterns for hull and turred, due to this "matching pratice".
I'll try to post them in the next days.
Regards
Zub
..thanks to post them

Arhad
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RE: Hybrid Panther - information
11. Panzer Division Panther Ausf G with a Ausf D cupola at Guébling Nov 44, Lorraine (France):There's at least another photo, showing 11th PD tanks in the Western Front, which shows an Ausf G with the Ausf D "drum" cupola.

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