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Arhad
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Hybrid Panther - information

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Post by Arhad » 06 May 2007, 15:50

Hi all,

with my friends we are looking for pictures of Sd.Kfz V Panther Ausf.D ( our link http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12080 ) and we have photo from internet with very strange Panther ......the turret is from Ausf.D , but tank hull is from Ausf.G ?

Don´t you know more ?

Thanks Arhad
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Post by Lannes » 06 May 2007, 16:03

Arhad,
There's at least another photo, showing 11th PD tanks in the Western Front, which shows an Ausf G with the Ausf D "drum" cupola. Not sure what the explanation would be, but it seems likely an Ausf D with a damaged hull and an Ausf G with a destroyed turret were matched to produce a usable tank.
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Post by Arhad » 06 May 2007, 16:27

uaaaa ...you mean this one?
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Post by brano » 06 May 2007, 16:46

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Post by Dubliner » 07 May 2007, 04:35

The turret on the hybrid panther in the first post may not have come from a Panther Ausf. D. The "dust bin" type copula was also used on a number of early Panther Ausf. As, see Jentz's Panzer Tract 5-2.

Having written this, I do believe its very possible a Ausf D turret was recycled and installed Ausf. G chassis. There are at least one picture of a 11 Pz.Div. Panther wreck with a "dust bin" copula and what looks like the outline of a communication port half covered by spare track links. The communication port was only found on early Ausf D turrets. There was a long debate about this hybrid Panther several years ago on Missing Lynx,

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#6

Post by barnaky » 08 May 2007, 10:51

Hi Guys!
The first picture was taken in Budapest, after the siege of the city, so this Panther belonged to the 13.Pz.Div. or the Pz.Div."FHH". The white number 108 wre written by russian "trophy" troops.

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Peter

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Post by zubdakabuz » 08 May 2007, 11:18

I remember a pic on Squadron's "Panther In Action" book of a captured German firm with a plenty of turret scratched from damaged Panthers, waiting to be installed on new/recovered/repaired hulls...

I also remember to have seen somewhere pics of Panthers with different Zimmerit patterns for hull and turred, due to this "matching pratice".

I'll try to post them in the next days.

Regards

Zub

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Post by Arhad » 08 May 2007, 12:29

zubdakabuz wrote:I remember a pic on Squadron's "Panther In Action" book of a captured German firm with a plenty of turret scratched from damaged Panthers, waiting to be installed on new/recovered/repaired hulls...

I also remember to have seen somewhere pics of Panthers with different Zimmerit patterns for hull and turred, due to this "matching pratice".

I'll try to post them in the next days.

Regards

Zub

..thanks to post them :wink:

Arhad

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Post by uli » 09 May 2007, 19:23

There's at least another photo, showing 11th PD tanks in the Western Front, which shows an Ausf G with the Ausf D "drum" cupola.
11. Panzer Division Panther Ausf G with a Ausf D cupola at Guébling Nov 44, Lorraine (France):


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Post by Arhad » 09 May 2007, 19:59

....nice uli...very nice :wink:

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Post by MarioL » 10 May 2007, 16:03

the other side

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Post by Arhad » 10 May 2007, 18:33

...lol MarioL - gut gemacht :wink:

2 all.....just the frontside and the backside and we have complet view of this vehicle

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Post by zubdakabuz » 14 May 2007, 14:07

Here is, as promised, the picture of a factory yard full of Panther turrets, waiting to be remanufactured.

Regards

Zub
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