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Post by Bernd R » 25 Jan 2008 13:13

Artillerieschulen -> precising / details

Artillerie-Schießschule Thorn (* 30.05.1942 ; subordinated to Art.S II )
- Lehr-Abt., 1.-3.(besp.) , 4.-5.(mot)
- Lehrstäbe I, II

renamed on 15.01.1943
Artillerie-Schule III, Thorn

moved on 11.03.1943
Suippes-Mourmelon / Chalons sur Marne

renamed on 28.04.1943
Schule III für Fahnenjunker der Artillerie
- Lehr-Abt I (09.06.1944 : redesignated Art.Abt 937)
- Lehr-Abt II (07.03.1944 : redesignated I./Pz.Art.Rgt 130 / Pz.Lehr.Div.)


Heeresunteroffiziersschule der Artillerie , Thorn ( formation date ? )
moved aug 1944 : Amberg

Feld-Unteroffiziersschule der Artillerie , Autun
subordinated to HUS Amberg on 26.10.1944

source : Tessin

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Post by Bernd R » 25 Jan 2008 13:29

Lehrer a.Waffenmeister Schule Standort Payersbach ??
10.11.1938 - 25.10.1939 – O Wolfgang Stahr
RE : Heereswaffenmeister-Schulen

Besides the Waffenmeisterschule I at Berlin-Treptow there was the second one

Heereswaffenmeisterschule II , Payerbach (Semmering , Niederösterreich, WK XVII)

source : Tessin
it reads Payerbach : http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payerbach

not quite sure at the moment about the formation date of the new school "II" at Offenburg/Baden -> 15.10.1941

Apparently there was a part by part moving to the new garrison (?), completed in 1943.
source : Vereinsgeschichte des Offenburger FV (soccer club)
http://ofv.avenit.de/files/upload/Vereinsgeschichte.pdf
page 10 : " [...] Verlegung der Waffenmeisterschule II nach Offenburg..."

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Post by Bernd R » 25 Jan 2008 13:36

Ausbildungs.Stab für Jagd-Verbände ?
Kdr.
1.04.1942 - 1.07.1942 – Gen.Major Wilhelm Weiß (Weiss)

Winterschule für Gebirgsjäger / Jägertruppen ?
Kdr.
1.07.1942 - 10.12.1942 – Gen.Major Wilhelm Weiß (Weiss)
possible connection of the above entry, listed for the time being :

new :

Winterschule für Ski-Jäger-Einheiten der Wehrmacht , TrÜbPl Arys (* dec 1942)
- Lehrtruppe : Jäger-Ersatz-Btl B

source : Tessin

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Post by Bernd R » 25 Jan 2008 13:49

addition of schools not yet listed :

Heeresfeuerwerkerschule II (or 2) , Tiborlager (* 05.04.1941)

mentioned here e.g. : http://www.wehrtechnikmuseum.de/Exponat ... erker.html


Heeresschule für Hunde- und Brieftaubendienst , Sperenberg/Krs. Teltow (* 10.07.1940)
renamed from
Lehranstalt für Heereshunde und Heeresbrieftaubenmeister

Zweigstelle : Biesenthal (nordostw. Berlin)


Heereslehrer-Akademie Godesberg (bei Bonn/Rhein ; * 01.10.1941)
[Ausbildung des Lehrer-Nachwuchses für die allgemeinbildenden Schulen des Heeres]

mentioned by Rudolf Absolon, Die Wehrmacht im Dritten Reich, e.g. :
http://books.google.com/books?id=hCsuJU ... utput=html

source : Tessin

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Post by Bernd R » 30 Jan 2008 12:13

Pionierschulen -> precising / details / open points

At first there was the Pionierschule der Reichswehr at München
(the former Infanterieschule which was moved to Dresden finally in 1926)

So, the start should be :

Pionierschule München ( [1920] - 1936 ; named Pi.S I : 01.05.1935 )

moved to and still named "I" (at least named "I" on 26.08.1939)

Pionierschule I , Berlin-Karlshorst (* 01.10.1936 ; barracks built 1936-38)

sources : Tessin ,
http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:Hc ... e&ie=UTF-8

remark :
I own a copy of a 64 pages booklet of the Museum Berlin-Karlshorst (visited in the 90s). Unfortunately there is nothing too much inside about the early days of the Pionierschule, especially no exact dates. For sure the institution started schooling in 1937 (evidence by a photo : "Lehrkörper der Pionierschule, 1937" , page 6 of the booklet). So, I take it the 01.10.1936 was the official start date of the school (by order ; moving from Munich).

Kommandeur at Munich (and early days at Karlshorst [?])
add by Dmitrij 2 : Pionierschule I Berlin-Karlshorst
Kdr :
1.10.1933 - 1.02.1937 - Oberstlt. / Oberst (1.10.1934) Ernst Jesse

Source :
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=33434
According to the info included in the link above (info by Glenn2438)
Ernst Jesse: 21 May 1889 - 4 Mar 1937 (died)
So, most probably, Oberst Jesse was seriously ill at the end of his command in jan/feb 1937.


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Post by Bernd R » 30 Jan 2008 12:32

going on with
Pionierschulen -> precising / details /

open points : the changes in numbering are simultaneously logical but also a bit confusing
-> what's not 100% clear to me is the connection between Speyer and Rosenheim ("2"), resp. the changes between these schools (parts).

Pionierschule I , Berlin-Karlshorst
renamed 01.10.1942
Festungspionierschule , Rehagen-Klausdorf (* 01.10.1942)

Pionierschule II , Dessau-Roßlau (named "II" : 26.08.1939)
renamed Pi.S "1" on 01.10.1942

Pionierschule III , Rosenheim (* 1942)
renamed Pi.S "2" on 01.10.1942

Pionierschule für schweren Brückenbau , Speyer (* 1942 ; Kaserne Rulandstraße)
renamed on 10.09.1944
Pionierschule 2
[moved 1945 : Rosenheim ?]
mentioned here e.g. : http://www.bsvspeyer.de/katspsst/KatSpSst3.htm

Pionierschule 3 , Regensburg (* 1943)


source : Tessin

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Post by Bernd R » 30 Jan 2008 12:53

RE : Pionierschulen
Pi. Schule I
Kdr. Offz.Lehrg. - Ziebe O 1.06.1941 (22a)
Although called "Pi.Schule I" (which would be Karlshorst) it ought to be Pionierschule Dessau-Roßlau. Most probably the "I" has to designate the later known arabic "1" of the Roßlau school.
(...was talking about the sometimes confusing numbering system !)

arguments :
1) Major / Oberstleutnant Ziebe, former Kdr Pi.Btl 30
-> "[...] wurde als Kommandeur des Lehrstabs A, Offiziers-Ausbildung, an die Pionier-Schule nach Dessau-Roßlau versetzt..."
http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:js ... e&ie=UTF-8

2) the date (-> 01.05.1941 most probably) does fit very much with the existing Kdr list for the Offz-Lehrgänge (= Lehrstab A !) at Roßlau :
Kdr Offz-Lehrgänge
01.09.1939 (?) - 27.01.1940 (?) Maj Georg Reinicke
01.02.1940 - 01.05.1940 O Alfred Thielmann
01.05.1940 - 01.05.1941 OTL / O (1.8.40) Richard Zimmer
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Post by Bernd R » 30 Jan 2008 13:34

RE : Infanterieschule Döberitz
Kdr Lehr-Btl 1 (?)
31.10.1940 - 02.01.1943 OTL / O (1.4.42) Lothar Berger
correction :
Kdr Lehrgruppe I (Lehrstab 1)

sources :
http://www.ritterkreuztraeger-1939-45.d ... Lothar.htm

and the memories of / fascinating story of Oberleutnant Kurt Schwerdt
who was a so-called "Ohnhänder" [english term ? ; the man lost both arms]
http://62vgd.de/schwerdt/kurt_schwerdt.htm
http://62vgd.com/schwerdt/Kurts_nachruf.htm
of note :
long ago research request on Olt Schwerdt on AHF]

extracted from the above sources :

Lehrer [und Insp.-Adjutant]
00.00.1941 - 00.00.1943 Lt / Olt (1.2.43) Kurt Schwerdt

Insp.Chef / Lehrgruppe I
1941/43 Major Horst Kolrep


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Post by Bernd R » 30 Jan 2008 20:03

Heeresmusikschule Bückeburg
Leiter
winter 1942/43 - 1944 (end) Dr. Friedrich Hodick
[school dissolved in 1944]

source : http://www.oesterreichische-militaermus ... drich.html
(go to : -> Kapellmeister / 2. Republik)


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Post by Bernd R » 31 Jan 2008 20:35

Artillerieschulen -> precising / details / corrections

Artillerieschule Jüterbog

until 12.10.1937 : Artillerie-Schießschule

the staff position of the
Kdr Schul-Lehr.Stab
redesignated on 12.10.1937
Kdr Lehrstab A

on 26.08.1939 : Lehrstab A renamed -> Waffenschule der Artillerie
(renamed "A" again on 18.05.1940)
(interim organisation due to the new Beobachtungs-Schule, formed from Lehrstab B ; also back to old structure on 18.05.1940)

formed according to Tessin :
* 20.02.1940 : Lehrstab für Offz.-Schießlehrgänge
* 10.08.1941 : Lehrstab T
* 15.01.1942 : Lehrstab C (Vermessungs- und Kartenwesen)

So, the following entries are getting a clearer sense and can be listed correctly (GL Curt Ebeling should be listed exactly now with all his school commands) :
Kdr Lehrstab ?
01.10.1934 - 06.10.1936 O / GM (1.10.35) Hans Kratzert


Kdr Lehrstab ?
06.10.1936 - 12.10.1937 OTL Curt Ebeling


Artillerie-Waffenschule : (?) Kdr
26.08.1939 - 12.02.1940 O Curt Ebeling

Kdr Art-Lehr-Stab
25.08.1940 - 15.04.1942 OTL / O (1.10.40) Martin Lattmann

Kdr. Lehrstab T - Keßler Oberst 1.04.1942 (79)
corrected version :

Kdr Schul-Lehr.Stab
01.10.1934 - 06.10.1936 O / GM (1.10.35) Hans Kratzert
06.10.1936 - 12.10.1937 OTL Curt Ebeling

redesignated on 12.10.1937
Kdr Lehrstab A [called Artillerie-Waffenschule from 26.08.1939 to 18.05.1940]
12.10.1937 - 09.06.1940 OTL / O (1.4.38) Curt Ebeling
??
25.08.1940 - 15.04.1942 OTL / O (1.10.40) Martin Lattmann
15.04.1942 - 01.02.1944 O Walter Herold

Lehrstab T (* 10.08.1941)
Kdr
10.08.1941 ? - ?? OTL / O (1.4.42) Keßler


new :
Artillerie- Lehr- und Ausbildungs-Abteilung (Sfl) 500 (* 05.04.1943 ; Jüterbog, 3 Bttrn)
??


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Post by Bernd R » 04 Feb 2008 15:52

Artillerie-Lehr-Regiment Jüterbog
* 01.10.1934 with 3 Abteilungen
named Artillerie-Lehr-Regiment (ALR) on 01.05.1935
in june [14.06.] 1941 dissolved (with effect on 01.07.) and used as nucleus to form Art.-Lehr-Rgter 1 - 3
[Art.Lehr-Rgt 4 , * 07.08.1943 / Art.Lehr-Rgt 5 , *17.07.1944]

Kdr
24.05.1941 - 30.06.1941 OTL Dr.rer.pol. Fritz Polack

Kdr V. Abt (* 01.02.1940)
01.02.1940 - 24.05.1941 OTL (1.8.40) Dr.rer.pol. Fritz Polack

Artillerie-Lehr-Regiment 2
Kdr
01.07.1941 - 25.10.1942 O (1.2.42) Dr.rer.pol. Fritz Polack

source for Polack : http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Per ... ackF-R.htm
formation history : Tessin

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Post by Bernd R » 04 Feb 2008 16:31

Kriegsschule München
Inspektionschef
01.09.1937 - 26.08.1939 Maj Rudolf Wulf

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Per ... ulfR-R.htm


Kavallerieschule Hannover
Lehrer
01.10.1933 - 01.10.1935 Maj Harry von Arnim
Kdr Turnier- und Rennabteilung
01.10.1936 - 01.10.1938 OTL Harry von Arnim

source : Mike's ABR and http://www.balsi.de/Homepage-Generale/H ... ry-von.htm

Leitender Veterinär-Offizier
1935/36/37 Oberstvet. Dr. Udo Bürger

mentioned (to confirm finally) : http://www.deutschesfachbuch.de/info/de ... PSESSID=sp


Adjutant Kav.S and Kdr Unteroffiziers-Reitschule (to confirm finally)
00.00.1933 - 01.10.1935 Maj Arno von Lenski

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arno_von_Lenski


RE :
Kavallerieschule
[...]
Lehrer
...
01.06.1941 ? - 08.12.1941 ? - O / GM (1.9.41) Gustaw Fritz Julius von Vaerst
solved , see here : http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=3515

corrected version :
Kavallerieschule / Schule für Schnelle Truppen , Krampnitz
Kdr
01.12.1939 - 00.05.1941 O Arno von Lenski
00.05.1941 - 00.12.[08.12.] 1941 O / GM (1.9.41) Gustav von Vaerst [Führung / stellv. Kdr]
00.12. (09.12.] 1941 - 01.06.1942 O Arno von Lenski


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Post by Bernd R » 04 Feb 2008 17:42

schools not yet listed

Kompanieführerschule Tours (* 21.09.1940 ; etatisiert 01.06.1941)
01.10.1941 : renamed Bataillonsführerschule ; Kp.Fhr-Schule again, 20.12.1941
moved on 23.06.1942 : Tr.Üb.Pl. Camp d'Auvours
moved on 05.08.1942 : Le Mans
named on 21.04.1943
Kompanieführerschule Le Mans / AOK 7


Schule der Technischen Truppen , Pirna (Sachsen)


source : Tessin
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Post by Bernd R » 06 Feb 2008 11:04

Panzerschule / Kampfwagenschule Kasan ( "Kama" )

1. Lehrgang 1929 - 30
Lehrgangsleiter : Hptm [Fritz] Kühn

2. Lehrgang 1931 - 32
Hptm [?] Brunn

3. Lehrgang 1933
Hptm [Hans Joachim] von Köppen

[first names added by me ; Brunn ? ]

source : http://www.meissler.de/militaer/wuensdo ... gang.shtml
which is a chapter of the booklet : "Wünsdorf - Geburts- und Entwicklungsstätte der deutschen Panzertruppen"
http://www.meissler.de/militaer/wuensdorf.shtml

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 06 Feb 2008 11:15

Erster Direktor 1929 Oberstleutnant a.D. Mahlbrnad.
" ",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1930 Ritter von Radlmeier
" "..................1931 Josef Harpe

Schießlehrer: Plt. a.D. Baumgart
Lehrer für Funktechnik : Ing. W. Burckhardt

Source:

Walther K. Nehring Die Geschichte der deutschen Panzerwaffe 1916- 1945, Anhang Seite 12

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