Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by Rossano » 17 Jan 2018, 18:24

Hello
There was a "Schule f. Fahnenjunker der Pz.Truppen" first in Wünsdorf then in Ohrdruf and later in Groß Glienicke. Is it known from/to when it (officially as such) exhisted ?
There was also a "Schule f. Fahnenjunker der Pz.Truppen" in Zossen. Is it known from/to when it (officially as such) exhisted ?
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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 22 Jan 2018, 14:42

Eisenbahnpionierschule Rehagen-Klausdorf :
Kdr :
…1939 - 12.11.1940 - Oberstlt. Dr. Dipl. Ing. Freidrich (Fritz) Stammbach
Kdr. 20.05.1940 (school was founded)- 12.11.1940
21.11.1940- 20.07.1942 Oberst Friedrich Kusin
20.07.1942- end GL Hans von Donat

Staff mid 1943:

Adj. Hauptmann ? Liebisch

Leiter Vorschriftenstelle OTL ? Gnau

Leiter Abt. Kriegsauswertung Major ? Oehler

Lehrer Algebra, Statistik, Vermessung Hptm. ? Geile

Lehrer Eisb.Pioniertaktik Hptm. ? Sonntag

Lehrer Taktik Major ? Görres

Lehrer mil. Ausbildung Olt. ? v.d. Osten-Sacken

Source:

Evalution by Hans-Georg Kampe, sent to me many, many years ago.

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by Dave Danner » 29 Jun 2018, 23:25

Can anyone make out the names of the officers who signed on the second page of this Vorschlag?

Oberst ____, Kommandeur, Lehrstab A der Artillerieschule II

Generalleutnant ______, Kommandeur, Artillerieschule II

The GL signature doesn't really look like Philipp, but I suppose it could be.

The bottom signature is Walter Kuntze.
Wüstner, Gottfried 1914 3.JPG
Wüstner, Gottfried 1914 4.JPG

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by Rossano » 01 Jul 2018, 11:19

Hello Dave
Effectively GL. Philipp was on 7.2.44 Kdr. of the school (and that must be his signature…)
As Kdr. of Lehrstab A I have from 1.2.44 (but as the doc. is dated 23.1.44 it could be that he took over the post earlier ?) Oberst Ernst (although the signature looks more like Kunz……)
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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 20 Nov 2018, 12:49

Dmitrij 2 wrote:
20 Jun 2008, 08:02

The corrected information

Schießschule der Panzertruppen in Putlos
Kdr.
10.11.1938 – 1.05.1942 – Oberstlt. / Oberst (1.08.1941) Ewald Kraeber (At the same time, Delegated with the Leadership of the Panzer-Regiment 33 – 31.05.1941 – 26.09.1941)
31.05.1941 – 26.09.1941 – Oberst Hans Joachim von Köppen (Delegated the Command)


Panzer-Regiment 33
Kdr.
00.08.1940 – 3.10.1941 – Oberst Hans Joachim von Köppen (At the same time, Delegated with the Leadership of the Schießschule der Panzertruppen – 31.05.1941 – 26.09.1941)
31.05.1941 – 26.09.1941 – Oberst Ewald Kraeber (Delegated the Command)

Chess castling :) :) :)



Source :
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=130415
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... r/PR33.htm
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German Cross in Gold
Köppen von, Hans Joachim, 24.12.1941, Oberstleutnant, Pz.Rgt. 33
Kraeber, Ewald, 18.10.1941, Oberst, Pz.Rgt. 33
This exchange of commands effective 01.06.1941 between Kraeber (Kdr. Sch. Lehrg.) and von Köppen (Kdr. Pz. R. 33) took place in the same PV (29.05.1941) with which v. Lenski and v. Vaerst exchanged commands. So the goal was to task officers from the rear with commands in front. However whilst the exchange of von Lenski and von Vaerst was done with "Beauftragung", the exchange of von Köppen and von Kraeber was done with "Ernennung" (appointment).

In the PV of 22.09.1941 effective 01.09.1941 Kraeber and v. Koeppen exchanged back to their former positions.

So it should read:

Sch. Lehrg./Pz. Tr. Sch. (Putlos):

b. 09.11.1938: Dipl. Ing. Baumgart
10.11.1938-31.05.1941: Kraeber
01.06.1941-31.08.1941: v. Köppen
01.09.1941: Kraeber

Kdr. Pz. R. 33:

b. 05.08.1940: Conze
06.08.1940-31.05.1941: von Köppen
01.06.1941-31.08.1941: Kraeber
01.09.1941-12.10.1941: von Köppen
13.10.1941: Siebert

Hope this helps!

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by iggy88 » 03 Apr 2019, 05:04

According to HPA PV of 21 Jun 1940, Ewald Kraeber (Kommandeur der Schießlehrgänge an der Panzertruppenschule) exchanged positions with Hans Voigt (Kommandeur, Panzer-Regiment 4) from 10 Jun 1940 until 31 Jul 1940.
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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by Rossano » 03 Apr 2019, 07:46

Bravo Todd
Rgds. Rossano

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by iggy88 » 03 Apr 2019, 23:24

According to HPA PV of 30 Nov 1940, Obst. Paul Matic von Dravodol was named Kommandeur der Wehrkreis-Reit- und Fahrschule VIII in Militsch mit Wirkung vom 05 Dec 1940.

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by Rossano » 04 Apr 2019, 07:36

Very good Todd
All DALs read "Matić-Dravodol"
Rgds., Rossano

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Post by iggy88 » 04 Apr 2019, 07:42

Rossano,
The PV also reads "Matić-Dravodol". I was going by an earlier post in which it was said that the correct name is Matic von Dravodol. But, I really don't know which name is correct.

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by askropp » 06 Jul 2019, 15:03

Update:

Heeres-Unteroffiziersschule (Panzergrenadiere) Arnswalde / Putlos
25.09.1943 - 20.03.1944 O Ernst von Bauer
20.03.1944 - 15.09.1944 O Gerhard Wißmann
15.09.1944 - Jan 1945 Maj Günter Kaldrack ( gef. 26.1.1945)
Jan 1945 - Ende ? ? ?

Can anybody enlighten me about Wißmanns next assignment?
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I read this as "vers. Kdr. d. Sch. d. Pz. Tr. als stellv. Kdr.", but the Kdr was always a general (Hauenschild, then Westhoven).
There are times in history when staying neutral means taking sides.

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by Rossano » 06 Jul 2019, 16:30

Hello Askropp
1) Schule was "f. Pz.Truppen"
2) "vom" Bauer correct
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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 17 Nov 2019, 13:03

Einzug der Panzerwagentruppen in ihren neuen Standort Wünsdorf am 20.10.35. Schlüsselübergabe des Standortältesten Oberstleutnant Johannes "Hans" Haarde an die Kommandeure an der Standortgrenze.
Which one is Haarde?

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bu ... andort.jpg
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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by markbeirnaert » 19 Jul 2021, 12:23

Hello everyone,
Any idea where the Bataillonsführer-Schule in Antwerpen was located exactly...?
Thank you.
Best regards,
Mark

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by Halfdan S. » 12 Sep 2021, 21:50

Hi,

have found a reference to three officers that in early 1945 were described as:

Hptm. Dill, Fahnenjunkerschule 2 der Panzertruppen;
Hptm. Giffel, Kdr. Fahnenjunkerschule der Panzertruppen;
Hptm. Klein, Infanterieschule Döberitz;

I've found a Stefan Giffel, but not enough to decide if he is the right person ... can anyone help?

Cheers
Halfdan S.

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