35,5cm Mörser M1?

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35,5cm Mörser M1?

Postby cyril » 21 Dec 2002 08:53

There can be somebody can to me help. I want to know as looked german 35,5cm Mörser M1. A figure or photo - me all the same.

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35,5 cm Mörser M.1

Postby Robert Hurst » 21 Dec 2002 10:53

Hi Cyril

Please find attached to this reply, two photos of the above weapon.

The first two photos with data was taken from 'Small Arms, Artillery and Special Weapons of the Third Reich', by Terry Gander and Peter Chamberlain. The last photo was taken from 'German Artillery of World War two', by Ian V. Hogg.

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Postby Mark V » 21 Dec 2002 15:14

I have been very interested about same piece. Unfortunately information is very limited and sources Robert mentioned are all that i have found about this very little known weapon.


I. V. Hogg, German Artillery of WW2:

>>>>This was a Rheinmetall-Borsig design, development which commenced in 1936 in response to an army demand for a super-heavy howitzer. The H M 1 was introduced into service in 1939 and was throughly up-to-date equipment (only about five were ever build), using the dual-recoil system and two-part carriage on platform giving 360 degrees traverse. The gun also broke into six loads that were carried on wheeled trailers for high-speed transport. The six towing vehicles were 18-ton three-quarter-tracked artillery tractors, while seventh tractor towed an assembly gantry. By and large the design might be as a logical enlargement of the 24cm K3. The six transport loads were the cradle, the barrel, the top carriage, the lower carriage, the front platform and the turntable, and finally the rear platform. On arrival at the gun position, the gantry (electrically powered from a generator on the towing tractor) was erected and used to assemble the weapon, an operation tha took about two hours. The guns elevating gear and the ammunition hoist were also operated by electric power from the generator, alltough hand operation was available in cases where the power supply failed. The barrel recoiled inside a ring cradle and was controlled by a hydropneumatic system. The carriage recoiled across the ground platforms, controlled by another hydropneumatic system the cylinders for which were within the carriage structure.

Calibre: 356 mm / 14.02 in
Lengt of a gun: 9585 mm / 377.36 in
Lengt of bore: 8050 mm / 316.93 in
Rifling: 96 grooves, uniform right-hand twist, 1/36
Breech mechanism: horizontal sliding block, percussion fired
Traverse: 6 degrees on the carriage, 360 degrees on the platform
Elevation: +45 to +75 degrees
Weight in action: 75.000 kg / 165375 lb
Range: standard HE projectile weighing 575 kg, ladung 4 (velocity 570 mps / 1870 fps) maximum range 20.000 metres / 21872 yd.



Hogg states the production figure of "about five". Sturmvogel states a production of 8 weapons (3 years between first in 1939 and second !!).


Interesting piece: Like a smaller Dora, quite long ranged for such heavy siege howitzer, calibre is also unique for a German weapon. Overall - very interesting - and propably the least known piece of German super-heavy artillery.

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Postby Juha Tompuri » 28 Dec 2002 22:58

Hi!

I don`t have very much to add to this conversation.
An old source of mine: "Handbook on German Military Forces" by US War Department 15th March 1945 gives the following data:
Carriage in seven sections
Weight in action 82,65t
Range 21870y
MV 1870fps
Ammo HE(827lbs) and fin stabilized AC stick bomb
There`s also a pic (same gun, different angle, than the last one Robert posted)

regards, Juha

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35,5 cm Mörser M1

Postby Antonio Pena » 29 Dec 2002 11:06

I have different characteristics for the same weapon
Designer designation: 35 cm Mörser L/27 M2
Calibre: 35,56 cm
Lenght of piece (L28.9): 10265 mm
Lenght of barrel: 9585 mm
Lenght of rifling: 8050 mm
Weight travelling (7 loads): 123500 Kg
Weight in action: 78000 Kg
Traverse (on carriage): 6º
Elevation: +45º to +75º
Muzzle velocity: 570 m/s
Shell weight: 575 Kg
Maximum range: 20850 m
Rate of fire: 1 round every 4 minutes
Barrel life: 2000 rounds
Design incorporated the dual recoil system and two parts platform for all-round traverse.
First used by the schwere Artillerie-Abteilung (mot) 641

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Re: 35,5cm Mörser M1?

Postby schwarzermai » 19 Mar 2015 09:10

hello - from ebay ...

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Re: 35,5cm Mörser M1?

Postby Sturm78 » 05 May 2015 11:33

Hi all,

Another image from EBay:

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Re: 35,5cm Mörser M1?

Postby tigre » 16 Feb 2016 00:12

Hello to all :D; a little complement...............................

The 35.5 cm Mörser M1.

The 35.5 cm Mörser M1 was a German siege howitzer. It was developed by Rheinmetall before World War II to meet the German Army's request for a super-heavy howitzer. Eight were produced between 1939 and 1944. It saw service in the Battle of France and spent the rest of the war on the Eastern Front, saw action in Operation Barbarossa, the Siege of Sevastopol, the Siege of Leningrad and helped to put down the Warsaw Uprising in 1944.

The schwere Artillerie-Abteilung 641.

On July 27, 1940 the Artillerie-Batterie 810 (35,5 cm Mörser M1) was assigned to the schw. Art.Abt. 641 as its 1. Battery. In this way the artillery group was composed of two batteries equipped with the 30,5 cm Mörser and one battery with the 35.5 cm Mörser M1.

Sources: http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... /AA641.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/35.5_cm_Haubitze_M1

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Re: 35,5cm Mörser M1?

Postby Sturm78 » 16 Feb 2016 09:45

Hi tigre

See also....viewtopic.php?f=70&t=131732&start=30

I requested to the administrators to merge both threads in only one...but without succes....

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Re: 35.5cm Moerser M1?

Postby tigre » 16 Feb 2016 10:50

Thanks for that tip Sturm78 :wink:.
I requested to the administrators to merge both threads in only one
good idea, I agree. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

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Re: 35,5cm Mörser M1?

Postby schwarzermai » 16 Feb 2016 15:30

tigre wrote:and helped to put down the Warsaw Uprising in 1944


Hello

i didnt find any document about action of this weapon against warsaw 1944.
so i think this wiki note is wrong

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Re: 35,5cm Mörser M1?

Postby tigre » 16 Feb 2016 16:11

Hello Uwe :D; thanks for that info...............................

i didnt find any document about action of this weapon against warsaw 1944.
so i think this wiki note is wrong


possibly (99,99 % :lol: ) you've right :wink:. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

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Re: 35,5cm Mörser M1?

Postby Jan-Hendrik » 16 Feb 2016 16:53

My questions on s.Art.Abt. 641(mot.)...

It was on duty at Westwall 1940 and Sewastopol 1942.

Brest-Litowsk 1941, too?

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Re: 35,5cm Mörser M1?

Postby schwarzermai » 16 Feb 2016 17:44

Jan-Hendrik wrote:My questions on s.Art.Abt. 641(mot.)...

It was on duty at Westwall 1940 and Sewastopol 1942.

Brest-Litowsk 1941, too?

Jan-Hendrik



Hello Jan-Hendrik, definitiv no - 641 were at VIII. Armeekorps around Grodno, Brest-Litowsk were fighted by the XII. Armeekorps

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Re: 35,5cm Mörser M1?

Postby Jan-Hendrik » 17 Feb 2016 07:53

Thank you, Uwe1 :milsmile:

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