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Re: LW plexiglass cupolas

Post by jopaerya » 08 Sep 2014 16:40

Looking at the numbers around the pit this could be a Flugwache ??

picture = Ebay

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Post by moonraker » 09 Sep 2014 16:46

hi jos,
I think is some emplacement is STP 235.
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Post by jopaerya » 09 Sep 2014 17:23

Hello Etienne

I know it's not your favorite archive :lol: :lol: , but the SHM Cherbourg called it a M.G. post ???

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Post by moonraker » 09 Sep 2014 18:25

look jos one echelle fixed in the bèton with the bolt in your picture,possible other fonction ?

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Re: LW plexiglass cupolas

Post by AW » 11 Sep 2014 08:42

...similar "LW" design?!
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Post by nordfriese » 11 Sep 2014 16:12

Hello!

There were different styles for Flugwachen. A wooden tower, a small "bunker" with a Plexiglas-Kuppel (cupola) or
these "concrete holes". They were called "Horchgrube" (listening hole).

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Re: LW plexiglass cupolas

Post by AW » 11 Sep 2014 17:41

Hello Rolf,
I never heard about that "Horchgrube"...
thx a lot for the info!
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Post by nordfriese » 11 Sep 2014 18:21

Hello!

Karl-Otto Hoffmann wrote in "Geschichte der Luftnachrichtentruppe" Band 2.1, Page 97:

Mitte 1940:
"In Zusammenhang mit der Neuorganisation der Flukos mit Fluko-Leitstelle befaßte sich Major Ewald auch
mit der Organisation der Auswertestellen bei den Nutznießern und der Schaffung wind- und lärmgeschützter
und hörsicherer Flugwachstände, den sogenannten 'Horchgruben'.

Beim Luftgau VI (Münster), in dessen Gebiet die Hauptziele, Haupteinflüge und Hauptüberflüge lagen bzw.
stattfanden, hatte man schon frühzeitig die Umstellung des Reserve-Flugmeldedienstes von reiner
Augenbeobachtung auf die besonders durch die Nachteinflüge notwendig gewordene Horchmöglichkeit
umgestellt. Die zuerst angelegten Horchgruben bei den Flugwachen hatten einen Durchmesser von 1,5
bis 2,0 m und erwiesen sich bald für Tonverstärkung und Resonanz des Flugzeuggeräusches im 50 - 150
Hertz-Bereich als unzulänglich. Die Horchgruben mußten daher auf 5 - 7 m erweitert, einige Flugwachen
wegen der Nebengeräusche verlegt werden."

So, Horchgruben were wind- and noisecovered to their surroundings, but also good for acute hearing
of the sound of airplanes. First their diameter were 1.5 to 2 meters, later 5 to 7 meters.

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Re: LW plexiglass cupolas

Post by der bunkermann » 11 Sep 2014 18:35

Wow, very nice info!
Thanks for sharing.
We have a fluwa bunker in our latest restauration project, with square hole appr. 120X120 centimeter, with above it the glass" fishtank".
The walls inside were covered with wooden plates.
Will search for pictures tonight.

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Post by SES » 11 Sep 2014 18:39

Hi Rolf,
You beat me to it. When I first saw the picture my immediate thought was "Horchgrube" .
They can still be found in well preserved sites in Denmark. Please note on the picture that the concrete slopes like a tub.
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Post by nordfriese » 11 Sep 2014 20:17

Hi SES!

:lol:

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Post by SES » 11 Sep 2014 20:21

:milwink:
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Post by jopaerya » 23 Sep 2015 12:13

From Ebay a Fluwa post in Holland , Regards Jos
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Post by moonraker » 26 Feb 2016 21:30

hello,

this wonderfull picture of fluwa.

Me belfra-team
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Re: LW plexiglass cupolas

Post by der bunkermann » 26 Feb 2016 22:19

Nice picture!!
Do you think those girls have something to do with the fluwa?
Do you have a better quality version? We would love to show this one in our fluwa bunker in Scheveningen..

Gr, Tim

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