Georg Fürst

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Georg Fürst

Post by Sdt » 19 Jul 2007 20:05

Note: the biography and the picture are from the Alte Kameraden vol. II CD's booklet that can be bought on on Internet (http://www.jubal.de). Translation: courtesy of Dave (behemoth). As a biography is never complete, feel free to share your knowledge if you have any information. For example, there is no mention of the Badenweiler-Marsch in this biography.

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Georg Fürst (1870-1936)
Georg Fürst was born the tenth child of city-musician Adolf Fürst. After first obtaining his education locally, Fürst in 1888-9 deepened his knowledge at the city music-school in Nuremburg.
In November 1889, he entered after his examination as a volunteer with the K.B.Infantrie-Leib Regiment Munich. The leader of his music-corps, Max Högg recognized his qualities very soon and recommended him to take private tutelage (?) and fostered his admission to the academy of music from 1895-7. After the final examinations/graduation (?), he was nominated to Musikmeister and led the Musikkorps des K.B.2.Jäger-Bataillons masterfully from July to September 1900. From 1.1.1902, he moved to Bamberg as Musikmeister of the K.B. 5 Infantrie-Regiment Großherzong Ernst Ludwig von Hessen. Through support of his regimental commander, Karl-Ludwig Riedl, Fürst returned for Max Högg as a successor under simultaneous promotion to Obermusikmeister to his old regiment in Munich in January 1911, and in the few years until the World War I was as much from military appearances as through his concert activities laying the foundation for his later popularity.
The titles of many compositions of Georg Fürst illustrate the path or his regiment in the war years and focus on large battles. Places like Sarrburg, Vimy, Fleury, Epehy, Kemmel, but also Isonzon, Alpskorps, Dolomites, Taliamento, and Serbia as well as the names of Commanders like General Kraft von Delmensingen, Prince Heinrich, Ritter von Epp, Baron von Kress, Excellency Schoch, bear witness to this.
After the founding of the Reichswehr he took over the 19.Bavarian Infantry Regiment; attached to this regiment until his retirement on the 20.April 1935 [my own comment – Hitlers birthday……]. The foremost marches of this period Georg dedicated to various persons (???) Here one can hear such examples as the “General-Leutenant Ritter von Leeb-Marsch” der "Oberstleutnant Kriebel Marsch der Oberstleutnant Wäger Marsch” and also more. On 5.2.1936, Georg Fürst died of an intestine-illness.
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Post by ansata1976 » 20 May 2009 16:07

Marches of Georg Fürst:

Badonviller-Marsch
Unter Bayerns Rautenbanner
Graf von Zech-Marsch
Fleury-Marsch
Roter Turmpaß-Marsch
General Freiherr von Kress-Marsch
Isonzo-Marsch
Prinz Heinrich-Marsch
Markomannen-Marsch
19er Marsch
Wittelsbacher Fanfare (Festfanfare)
FC Bayern-Marsch
Bayrischzeller Skiclub-Marsch
Trauermarsch
König Ludwig III.-Marsch
Inama-Marsch
Alpenkorps-Marsch
Oberstleutnant Kriebel-Marsch
Eherne Wehr
Generalleutnant Ritter von Leeb-Marsch
Oberstleutnant Wäger-Marsch
Oberst Heinecker-Marsch
Die tapferen Bayern
Exzellenz General Krafft von Delmensingen-Marsch
Am Tagliamento
An der Piave
An der Putna
Kemmel-Marsch
Odobesti-Marsch
Batinesti-Marsch
Epehy-Marsch
Erinnerung an Siebenbürgen
In den Dolomiten
Das Leibregiment in Serbien
Soldaten Lust
Ritter von Schoch-Marsch
Sturm auf Saarburg
Ritter von Epp-Marsch
Gruss an Bamberg
Gruss an Straubing
Max Josef Ritter Marsch
Muncelul Marsch
Oberst Adam Marsch
Oberst Prager Marsch
Oberst von Pechmann Marsch
Parole Heimat
Prinz Eugen Marsch
Siegerehrung
Vimy Marsch

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Post by GAFuerst » 16 Dec 2009 22:31

OMM Georg Fuerst (1870-1936) was my grand uncle, a younger brother of my grandfather, Prof. Heinrich Fuerst (1861-1944).
In one of the postings on this forum Georg Fuerst is shown allegedly congratulating Adolf Hitler on his 46th birthday.
I believe that this picture was actually taken as a farewell gesture when my grand uncle left the service officially on April 30, 1935. On that occassion, Hitler had given him an autographed photograph of himself as a gift. This picture (as shown on the forum) had been widely misconstrued and misidentified. It should also be noted that the Badonviller March was composed in 1914 as a tribute to Bavarian troops fighting and managing to win victory, however with heavy losses. My grand uncle, a member of the Reichswehr under the Weimar Republic, conceived of this march while sitting by the roadside near the Badonviller battle field, while postal vehicles, which had been converted for ambulance use, were passing by with the wounded soldiers. The hunking of the "ambulance" horns gave him the idea for the initial trumpet signals which begin the march. This must be stated categorically. The march became very popular and when the Weimar Republic yielded to the Third Reich, Hitler adopted this march as his favorite march quite a few years later. Hitler also ordered the marche's original name to be changed from Badonviller to Badenweiler. The point is that Badonviller and Badenweiler are two distinctly different communities in two different locations, one French, and the other German! There is a small town by the name of Badenweiler in the Black Forest, and that has led to much confusion! Additionally, as a result of Hitler's action, this music is still suffering from an association which had nothing to do with National Socialim in its beginning. Georg Fuerst died in 1936. His music for the most part was from the era of W.W. I, and it should not be discredited or disqualified from being performed, simply because of one marche's association with a later regime. Georg Fuerst had no direct bearing or personal influence over Hitler's choice.
Signed: Gerhard A. Fuerst (G1st@aol.com)
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 18 Dec 2009 01:22

Hello, Gerhard

GAFuerst wrote:In one of the postings on this forum Georg Fuerst is shown allegedly congratulating Adolf Hitler on his 46th birthday.
I believe that this picture was actually taken as a farewell gesture when my grand uncle left the service officially on April 30, 1935.

I have posted the photo in question, here's the post: viewtopic.php?f=81&t=122634&start=30#p1086603 It is a property of the Ullstein Bild; you can find it at their website, under number 00041085. Original caption for this photo is the following: "Hitlers 46. Geburtstag. Obermusikmeister Georg Fürst (links), der Komponist des Badenweiler Marsches, gratuliert Adolf Hitler." (Date: 20.04.1935)

Don't be worried, it is very well known that Georg Fürst's compositions were mainly connected to WWI. And the photo showing him congratulating the leader of his country on his birthday (in 1935, when Hitler was widely known simply as a successful politician) is nothing bad, or strange...

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Post by Auceps » 21 Dec 2009 16:32

GAFuerst wrote:The point is that Badonviller and Badenweiler are two distinctly different communities in two different locations, one French, and the other German! There is a small town by the name of Badenweiler in the Black Forest, and that has led to much confusion!

Greetings, Herr Fuerst! :)

Hmm, excuse me, but Hitler didn't change so much by changing the name from "Badonviller-Marsch" to "Badenweiler". "Badonviller" is a French name of this village, while "Badenweiler" is it's German name (like Breslau and Wrocław).
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badonviller
I think, Hilter just didn't want some m-m-m...."frenchism" in the name of his favorite march, so he ordered to change the name. Anyway, your grand uncle composed many other good marches, not only Badenweiler.

Btw., maybe I'm not right and telling stupid things, but, according to banners (of this march) logic, we should also ban all German sheperd dogs (because Hitler loved them as well), theatrical play "Days of Turbin's" (because another dictator Stalin loved that play) etc. I completely agree with Ivan - there is nothing bad or strange when the head of the state estimates your musical composition.

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Kapelle des Infanterieregiments 19, München

Post by Fallersleben » 04 Jun 2015 10:31

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Die Kapelle des Infanterieregiments 19 ("München") spielt ein Konzert im Münchner Zoo. Geleitet wird dieses Konzert von dem Komponisten Georg Fürst, einem der bedeutendsten bayerischen Militärmusiker. Diese Aufnahme zeigt Georg Fürst weniger als ein Jahr vor seinem Tod im Februar 1936.
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Re: Georg Fürst

Post by Ivan Ž. » 04 Jun 2015 10:45

Thanks, F., I knew the one from SZ, but I missed the one from Beeldbank WO2 :D

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Re: Georg Fürst

Post by Auceps » 04 Jun 2015 23:04

Me too, the first photo I haven't seen yet! :) Thank you, Fallersleben!

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Re: Georg Fürst

Post by ansata1976 » 05 Jun 2015 14:01

more marches of Fürst:

Oberst Adam Marsch
Oberst von Pechmann Marsch
Parole Heimat
Prinz Eugen Marsch
Siegerehrung
Jägerblut Gebirgsjäger Marsch
Fahrt ins Blaue
Schönes Bayernland
Schneidige Schützen
Fahnen-Marsch
Ehrenwache Marsch
General-Ritter-von-Epp Kommandeur-Marsch
Großherzog Ernst Ludwig von Hessen-Marsch
Gruß an München
Die Residenzwache

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Re: Georg Fürst

Post by Oberhessin » 06 Jun 2015 21:23

And here is a picture from his burial, Source Völkischer Beobachter,

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Re: Georg Fürst

Post by Ivan Ž. » 07 Jun 2015 13:12

Oberhessin wrote:And here is a picture from his burial, Source Völkischer Beobachter
Thank you for posting, nice find :)

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Re: Georg Fürst

Post by Oberhessin » 07 Jun 2015 18:38

Give me some days then I will the whole article.

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Re: Georg Fürst

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Re: Georg Fürst

Post by Ivan Ž. » 11 Apr 2016 21:45

Another nice find, F. :thumbsup:

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