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"Wehrmacht im Kampf"- series

Post by Jan-Hendrik » 28 Jul 2007 15:05

This thread is dedicated to this fifty-books-.series, I am interested in your opinios, which ones are usable, which ones are rather a waste of money.

Here the complete lis:

Band 1 Witebsk-Kampf und Untergang der 3. Panzerarmee Otto Heidkämper
Band 2 Die Invasion. Von Cotentin bis Falaise Friedrich Mayn
Band 3 Tscherkassy Nikolaus von Vormann
Band 4 Gebirgsjäger bei Uman. Die Korpsschlacht des XXXXIX. Gebirgs-Armeekorps bei Podwyssokoje 1941 Hans Steets
Band 5 Das Ende auf dem Balkan.Die Operationen der heeresgruppe E von Griechenland bis zu den Alpen Erich Schmidt-Richberg
Band 6 Bewegungskrieg - Führungsprobleme einer Infanterie-Division im Westfeldzug 1940 / Die Wehrmacht im Kampf Hermann Teske
Band 7 Vom Kuban-Brückenkopf bis Sewastopol-Flakartillerie im Verband der 17. Armee Wolfgang Pickert
Band 8 Gebirgsjäger in der Nogaischen Steppe. Vom Dnjepr zum Asowschen Meer. August - Oktober 1941 Hans Steets
Band 9 Eismeerfront 1941. Die Wehrmacht im Kampf, Band 9. Aufmarsch und Kämpfe des Gebirgskorps Norwegen in den Tundren vor Murmansk. Wilhelm Hess
Band 10 Nach Stalingrad - 48 Kilometer! Der Entsatzvorstoß der 6. Panzerdivision Dezember 1942 Horst Scheibert
Band 11 Panzer-Operationen - Die Panzergruppe 3 und der operative Gedanke der deutschen Führung Sommer 1941 Hermann Hoth
Band 12 Deutsche Seestrategie in zwei Weltkriegen Kurt Assmann
Band 13 Albert-Kanal und Eben-Emael; Albert Kanal Eben Emael Walter Melzer
Band 14 Der deutsche Griechenland-Feldzug. Operationen der 12. Armee 1941. Alex Buchner
Band 15 Gebirgsjäger zwischen Dnjepr und Don. Von Tschernigowka zum Mius, Oktober-Dezember 1941 Hans Steets
Band 16 Angriff einer Infanteriedivision : die 101. leichte Infanteriedivision in der Frühjahrsschlacht bei Charkow Mai 1942 Hans Kissel
Band 17 Partisanenkrieg : Entstehung u. Bekämpfung d. Partisanen- u. Untergrundbewegung im Mittelabschnitt d. Ostfront 1941 bis 1943 Valdis Redelis
Band 18 Narvik. Die Kämpfe der Gruppe Dietl im Frühjahr 1940. Alex Buchner
Band 19 Dünkirchen - Ein Beitrag zur Geschichte des Westfeldzuges 1940 Hans-Adolf Jacobsen
Band 20 Panzer-Taktik. - Raids gepanzerter Verbände im Ostfeldzug 1941/42 Oskar Munzel
Band 21 Jassy. Schicksal einer Division oder einer Armee? Walther Rehm
Band 22 Der Gegenschlag- Kampfbeispiele und Führungsgrundsätze der Beweglichen Abwehr F.M. Senger und Etterlin
Band 23 Westfront 1939/40. Erinnerungen des Feindbearbeiters im O.K.H Ulrisch Liss
Band 24 Kampf um die baltischen Inseln 1917-1941-1944.Eine Studie zur triphibischen Kampfführung Wilhelm Melzer
Band 25 Das Befestigungswesen. Rückblick und Ausschau Otto-Wilhelm Förster
Band 26 Die Deutsche Reichsbahn im Ostfeldzug 1939-1944 Hans Pottgiesser
Band 27 Die Panzerschlachten in der Pußta im Oktober 1944-Ein Beitrag zum Problem "Beweglich geführte Verteidigung " und " Verteidigung aus Stellungen " Hans Kissel
Band 28 Korpsabteilung C vom Dnjeper bis nach Polen (November 1943 bis Juli 1944) - Kampf einer Infanterie-Division auf breiter Front gegen große Übermacht; Kampf im Kessel und Ausbruch Wolfgang Lange
Band 29 Der Vorstoß der Panzergruppe 4 auf Leningrad - 1941 Walter Chales de Beaulieu
Band 30 Zwischen Don und Donez - Winter 1942/43 Horst Scheibert
Band 31 Logistische Probleme der Kriegsmarine Paul W. Zieb
Band 32 Anzio-Nettuno - Eine Schlacht der Führungsfehler Jörg Staiger
Band 33 Entstehung und Räumung der Ostseebrückenköpfe 1945 Ingrid Bidlingmaier
Band 34 Die Propagandatruppen der Deutschen Wehrmacht Hasso von Wedel
Band 35 Einsatz der schweren Kriegsmarineeinheiten im ozeanischen Zufuhrkrieg- Strategische Konzeption und Führungsweise der Seekriegsleitung September 1939 - Februar 1942 Gerhard Bidlingmaier
Band 36 Panzerschlachten - Eine Studie über den Einsatz von Panzerverbänden im zweiten Weltkrieg F.W. von Mellenthin
Band 37 Baltikum 1941-Die Geschichte eines ungelösten Problems Werner Haupt
Band 38 Der Griff ins Ungewisse. Die ersten Kriegstage 1940 beim XVI. Panzerkorps im Kampf um die Deylestellung, 10. - 17. Mai Hermann Zimmermann
Band 39 Rückzug durchs Rhonetal - Abwehr- und Verzögerungskampf der 19. Armee im Herbst 1944 unter besonderer Berücksichtigung des Einsatzes der 11. Panzer-Division Jörg Staiger
Band 40 Feldherrn und Panzer im Wüstenkrieg- Die Herbstschlacht "Crusader " im Vorfeld von Tobruk 1941 Hermann Büschleb
Band 41 Das Tor zur Festung Europa - Abwehr- und Rückzugskämpfe des XIV. Panzerkorps auf Sizilien Franz :carzy: Kurowski
Band 42 Vom Bug zum Kaukasus - Das III. Panzerkorps im Feldzug gegen Sowjetrußland 1941/42 Eberhard von Mackensen
Band 43 Armee Wenck - Die 12. Armee zwischen Elbe und Oder 1945 Franz :carzy: Kurowski
Band 44 Kampf um Rom - Inferno am Po. Der Weg der 362. Infanterie-Division 1944/45 Heinz Greiner
Band 45 Generaloberst Erich Hoepner - Militärisches Portrait eines Panzer-Führers Walter Chales de Beaulieu
Band 46 Das IX.Armeekorps im Ostfeldzug 1941 Hermann Geyer
Band 47 Ungarns Armee im Zweiten Weltkrieg Franz v. Adonyi- Naredy
Band 48 Unternehmen Sonnenblume - Der Entschluss zum Afrika-Feldzug Charles B. Burdick
Band 49 Unser Mann bei Goebbels. Verbindungsoffizier des Oberkommandos der Wehrmacht beim Reichspropagandaminister Hans-Leo Martin
Band 50 Wenn Gegenwart Geschichte wird Hermann Teske

I have so far Band 7 and 33, and they are quite good on their topic (always taken in regard that they are done on the research level of the 1950s).

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Post by Andreas » 28 Jul 2007 16:39

Here are the ones I have:

Band 3 Tscherkassy Nikolaus von Vormann (Waste of money)
Band 4 Gebirgsjäger bei Uman. Die Korpsschlacht des XXXXIX. Gebirgs-Armeekorps bei Podwyssokoje 1941 Hans Steets (Great)
Band 6 Bewegungskrieg - Führungsprobleme einer Infanterie-Division im Westfeldzug 1940 / Die Wehrmacht im Kampf Hermann Teske (Perfect)
Band 7 Vom Kuban-Brückenkopf bis Sewastopol-Flakartillerie im Verband der 17. Armee Wolfgang Pickert (Great)
Band 8 Gebirgsjäger in der Nogaischen Steppe. Vom Dnjepr zum Asowschen Meer. August - Oktober 1941 Hans Steets (Great)
Band 10 Nach Stalingrad - 48 Kilometer! Der Entsatzvorstoß der 6. Panzerdivision Dezember 1942 Horst Scheibert (Soso)
Band 11 Panzer-Operationen - Die Panzergruppe 3 und der operative Gedanke der deutschen Führung Sommer 1941 Hermann Hoth (Perfect)
Band 15 Gebirgsjäger zwischen Dnjepr und Don. Von Tschernigowka zum Mius, Oktober-Dezember 1941 Hans Steets (Great)
Band 16 Angriff einer Infanteriedivision : die 101. leichte Infanteriedivision in der Frühjahrsschlacht bei Charkow Mai 1942 Hans Kissel (Great)
Band 20 Panzer-Taktik. - Raids gepanzerter Verbände im Ostfeldzug 1941/42 Oskar Munzel (soso)
Band 24 Kampf um die baltischen Inseln 1917-1941-1944.Eine Studie zur triphibischen Kampfführung Wilhelm Melzer (Perfect)
Band 26 Die Deutsche Reichsbahn im Ostfeldzug 1939-1944 Hans Pottgiesser (ask Jon G.)
Band 27 Die Panzerschlachten in der Pußta im Oktober 1944-Ein Beitrag zum Problem "Beweglich geführte Verteidigung " und " Verteidigung aus Stellungen " Hans Kissel (Fairytales, according to Kamen Nevenkin, but see below for his more balanced view expressed in a PM)
Band 28 Korpsabteilung C vom Dnjeper bis nach Polen (November 1943 bis Juli 1944) - Kampf einer Infanterie-Division auf breiter Front gegen große Übermacht; Kampf im Kessel und Ausbruch Wolfgang Lange (Great)
Band 29 Der Vorstoß der Panzergruppe 4 auf Leningrad - 1941 Walter Chales de Beaulieu (Perfect)
Band 30 Zwischen Don und Donez - Winter 1942/43 Horst Scheibert (Soso)
Band 32 Anzio-Nettuno - Eine Schlacht der Führungsfehler Jörg Staiger (Okay)
Band 36 Panzerschlachten - Eine Studie über den Einsatz von Panzerverbänden im zweiten Weltkrieg F.W. von Mellenthin (Fairy tales)
Band 46 Das IX.Armeekorps im Ostfeldzug 1941 Hermann Geyer (Very good)
Band 48 Unternehmen Sonnenblume - Der Entschluss zum Afrika-Feldzug Charles B. Burdick (Good)

All the best

Andreas
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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 28 Jul 2007 16:48

Well, thank you for your opinions, I think the next one will be the one be Chales de Beaulieu 8-)

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Post by trollelite » 28 Jul 2007 19:37

Band 27 Die Panzerschlachten in der Pußta im Oktober 1944-Ein Beitrag zum Problem "Beweglich geführte Verteidigung " und " Verteidigung aus Stellungen " Hans Kissel (Fairytales, according to Kamen Nevenkin)


Really? That would surprise me, and who is this Kamen Nevenkin, anyway? If he is a russian, I would not be surprised anymore!

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Post by trollelite » 28 Jul 2007 19:39

If this one is fairytales, I must say almost everyone in this series is fairytales,too. And there would be unending list of fairytales on german books, perhaps only those published by DDR could be excluded.

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Post by Andreas » 29 Jul 2007 00:33

trollelite wrote:Band 27 Die Panzerschlachten in der Pußta im Oktober 1944-Ein Beitrag zum Problem "Beweglich geführte Verteidigung " und " Verteidigung aus Stellungen " Hans Kissel (Fairytales, according to Kamen Nevenkin)


Really? That would surprise me, and who is this Kamen Nevenkin, anyway? If he is a russian, I would not be surprised anymore!


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I trust Kamen over Kissel. You are welcome to take a different approach.

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Post by Andreas » 29 Jul 2007 00:34

trollelite wrote:If this one is fairytales, I must say almost everyone in this series is fairytales,too. And there would be unending list of fairytales on german books, perhaps only those published by DDR could be excluded.


Disagree.

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Post by Jon G. » 30 Jul 2007 10:07

Andreas wrote:...
Band 26 Die Deutsche Reichsbahn im Ostfeldzug 1939-1944 Hans Pottgiesser (ask Jon G.)..


Well I should bite the bullet and review then :) In my opinion, Potgiesser's book is very good. He focusses mainly on the administrative side of things, rather than the operational history of the Reichsbahn in the east, which IMO is the right approach. Operational and unit histories of the war in the east are to be had by the dozen, but more tightly focussed monographs are rarer.

Apart from describing the administrative confusion wrought by having several semi-independent authorities operate the railroads in the east, Potgiesser spends many pages describing the technical difficulties of rail operations in extreme cold, the difficulties imposed by partisan operations against the railroads and the mass employment of local labour for the railroads. The needs of the Ostbahn's principal customer (i.e. the Wehrmacht) are usually only addressed indirectly, if at all, which is perhaps a weak point in Potgiesser's narrative.

Potgiesser is very fond of numbers (a good thing) and technical-administrative shorthand (a not so good thing); I freely admit that his use of railroad-specific technical terms frequently defies my German language skills. But that's obviously just a personal gripe in a book which I do not hesitate to recommend.

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Post by Michate » 31 Jul 2007 09:27

I have seen only a few works belonging to this series, but I can wholeheartedly second the recommendations of Chales de Beaulieu and Pottgießer (though the latter may be a little biased in favour of the Reichbahn and against the Wehrmacht, so you might read the Rohde book on Wehrmachttransportwesen as a complementary).

Scheibert on Stalingrad is quite good, too, while my opinions on Munzel is mixed, too.

As to Kissel's book, some time ago I asked Kamen Nevenkin in a PM, and he kindly answered me. I take the freedom to quote the relevant passage:

IMO, Kissel's book is a decent effort to utilize the available materials on the subject as they were available in the late 50s. I'm not sure whether you are familiar with the German archive collections or not, but I must say that Kissel has managed to incorporate in his work the essence of the available information. Please, note that there is a gap in the KTB of HGr Sued from 16 to 24.10.44. One of the most useful features are the daily situation maps, as well as the series of after-action reports reproduced in the appendix section. Of course, the major weakness (IMO) is that 1.) it is pretty much one-sided (something typical for the books written in the 50s and 60s) 2.) no information is available on the counterattack at Szolnok 3.) The author has relied on some questionable secondary sources (Friessner's book, for example). Nevertheless, I think that it will be a good deal especially due to the maps and the tactical details (the other books on Hungary do not dig so deep in the subject).


So it should be a good, albeit not perfect or outstanding book.

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Post by Andreas » 31 Jul 2007 09:51

The problem I have with Scheibert is that he is too much worms-eye for my taste. I do like the hatchet job he does on Raus in "Zwischen Don und Donetz" though. :)

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Post by trollelite » 31 Jul 2007 15:02

If you want a balanced story I am afraid none of this series qualified.

So everyone is fairytale.

People should extract useful information from the lot, using his own judgement, not simply denounce it as "fairy tale" just by some questionable narrative. Only a books with lies from beginning to end could be thought so, but I don't think you could prove that.
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Post by Andreas » 31 Jul 2007 15:24

trollelite wrote:If you want a balanced story I am afraid none of this series qualified.

So everyone is fairytale.

People should extract useful information from the lot, using his own judgement, not simply denounce it as "fairy tale" just by some questionable narrative. Only a books with lies from beginning to end could be thought so, but I don't think you could prove that.


The problem I have with this particular work by Kissel is that the destruction of Pliev's group is really a core element and story of the book, and if that is overstated to the degree Kamen notes, it devalues the whole work for me.

So I disagree that this is the same as saying all the books are fairy tales. Kissel makes similar mistakes in his 'Die Katastrophe in Rumänien', where he apparently overstates the damage to AG South Ukraine. I think he is stronger when he writes about his own experiences (e.g. in the Charkow book or in 'Vom Dnepr bis zum Dnestr', then when he writes about events he was not really a participant in.

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Post by trollelite » 31 Jul 2007 17:10

I don't believe total destruction of Pliev group either, because no mobile unit ever destroyed in such a manner.

What interest me from this book is, the author has to explain why axis line still had to be taken back even after they mauled KMG, the problem is lack of infantry support, and lack of lasting assualt power, this book highlighted some problems faced by later-era panzerdivision, that is its value.

These battles in Romania and Hungary clearily exposed the fundament organization weakness of 44 type Inf and Pz Div, I want to what is problem, why it comes into being , how to react, so on, so such titles is still of great value to me.


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Post by Richard Hargreaves » 01 Aug 2007 11:02

Anyone read Ulrich Liss' book? I'm toying with investing in it for my next book on the fall of France.

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 06 Aug 2007 09:42

Managed to get the Volume 29 by Chales de Beaulieu on E-Bay yesterday 8-)

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