February, 1945 - What tank do you choose?

Discussions on alternate history, including events up to 20 years before today. Hosted by Terry Duncan.
User avatar
Rob S.
Member
Posts: 338
Joined: 18 Mar 2002 02:02
Location: USA

Post by Rob S. » 11 Apr 2002 19:08

I'd choose a T-34 and swap the flags according to the particular affiliate I came across... 8O

Really I'd choose a Pershing! It'd be great. You'd to get to filled up with Gas all the way to the front. And when you get there by the last week of the war, there'd be plenty of Shermans to have your flanks covered :lol: Better watch out for those Pz.II Fuchs though, I hear those tungsten core 20mm shells can reak havok on 19mm rear hull armor :oops:

Logan Hartke
Member
Posts: 1226
Joined: 12 Mar 2002 18:30
Location: Illinois, USA

Post by Logan Hartke » 11 Apr 2002 22:23

I'll tell my pick in an hour or two. First, I want to allow for a little more speculation. Maybe Marcus can guess mine, I bet he can.

Logan Hartke

Logan Hartke
Member
Posts: 1226
Joined: 12 Mar 2002 18:30
Location: Illinois, USA

Post by Logan Hartke » 12 Apr 2002 05:55

Okay, I'll tell you guys, my pick is the T32. It's 90mm T15E2 had a better performance than that of the L/71. The T15E2 had amuzzle velocity of 3,750ft per second. It had 200mm frontal turret armour and 125mm frontal sloped armour and 75mm side armour. Essentially, imagine a lighter King Tiger with the manueverability of a Pershing. It looked like a Pershing on steroids. I haven't found a picture of it online, but I may post one from a scanner if no one can find a pic. Well, the suspense is over, that is my pick.

Logan Hartke

User avatar
prejo
Member
Posts: 160
Joined: 04 Apr 2002 10:27
Location: Bucharest, Romania

Post by prejo » 12 Apr 2002 11:35

My pick will be definetly a StuG IV. With its low profile it was a real tank-killer. By the way it was the most successful AFV in WWII looking from the total productin vs. total kills point of view. My pick definetly could not be the brits tanks or americans tanks

User avatar
Marcus
Member
Posts: 33963
Joined: 08 Mar 2002 22:35
Location: Europe

Post by Marcus » 12 Apr 2002 21:42

Logan Hartke wrote:Okay, I'll tell you guys, my pick is the T32.
Image

The T32 above don't look to frightening to me ;-)

/Marcus

IAR80
Member
Posts: 184
Joined: 15 Mar 2002 21:05
Location: Satu Mare, Romania

re

Post by IAR80 » 12 Apr 2002 21:45

My personal fav would be the Panther F with night vision and telescopic range finder (thread about this on "Third Reich").
Good armor, an excellent gun, very reliable engine and good cross country performance. Also it had a nice little low profile design too.
Speed and accuracy I'll take any day instead of sitting in a 80 ton coffin waiting for an airstrike.

Logan Hartke
Member
Posts: 1226
Joined: 12 Mar 2002 18:30
Location: Illinois, USA

Post by Logan Hartke » 12 Apr 2002 23:02

Marcus Wendel wrote:
Logan Hartke wrote:Okay, I'll tell you guys, my pick is the T32.
Image

The T32 above don't look to frightening to me ;-)

/Marcus
Yeah, Marcus, that was the only pic of a T32 that I seemed to be able to find. In actuality, if you don't have a book with a pic of it, I'll try to do my best job of describing it. Imagine a Pershing with an extra roadwheel, a far longer 90mm gun, overall bigger vehicle, and a counterweight on the turret rear. That's about it.

Logan Hartke

User avatar
Galahad
Member
Posts: 952
Joined: 30 Mar 2002 00:31
Location: Las Vegas

Re: which tank

Post by Galahad » 13 Apr 2002 03:42

I think I'd pick a late mark IV. It didn't have the armor of either the Tiger or the Panther, but it was much faster and more maneuverable than the former, and a lot less prone to breakdowns than the latter.
Call me old fashioned, but I like to trust my combat equipment when the you-know-what hits the fan.

User avatar
Christian Ankerstjerne
Forum Staff
Posts: 14057
Joined: 10 Mar 2002 14:07
Location: Denmark

Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 13 Apr 2002 20:48

Actually, the Pz.Kpfw. IV was a great deal slower than the Tiger II - see http://www.panzerworld.net/TigerIIcomp.htm . It is true that the Panther broke down a lot more than the Pz.Kpfw. IV, but the Tiger II only broke down a little bit more often...

FP

User avatar
Galahad
Member
Posts: 952
Joined: 30 Mar 2002 00:31
Location: Las Vegas

Re: Tiger speed

Post by Galahad » 14 Apr 2002 01:05

Son of a gun! You're right.....the Tiger WAS a bit faster than the Mk IV. Somehow I had the impression it was a fair amount slower. I think I'd still pick the Mk IV though, because of the reliability.
Though if the Panther had been more reliable, it would have been my pick; it was the best overall tank design of them all. Just had the odd engineering problem.

User avatar
Christian Ankerstjerne
Forum Staff
Posts: 14057
Joined: 10 Mar 2002 14:07
Location: Denmark

Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 14 Apr 2002 13:04

Okay - but I'm warning you - I'm coming after you in my Tiger II ;) (frontal assault - then we'll see) hee hee hee!

FP

User avatar
Galahad
Member
Posts: 952
Joined: 30 Mar 2002 00:31
Location: Las Vegas

Re: head start

Post by Galahad » 14 Apr 2002 17:50

Do I get a wee head start? Say, maybe a day? Calculating the speed differential, I figure I ought to be able find a nice river someplace, one with a bridge too insubstantial for you to cross. Or maybe you'll run out of gas. "Hope springs eternal...." etc. <g>

User avatar
Christian Ankerstjerne
Forum Staff
Posts: 14057
Joined: 10 Mar 2002 14:07
Location: Denmark

Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 14 Apr 2002 17:57

Yeah, that could be a solution - although by long-range 8,8 will find you eventually ;)

Christian Ankerstjerne

User avatar
Galahad
Member
Posts: 952
Joined: 30 Mar 2002 00:31
Location: Las Vegas

Re: the 88

Post by Galahad » 14 Apr 2002 20:35

Did I mention I'm also trying to find a used, but serviceable P-47? Backup is always useful. <g>
Rob

Logan Hartke
Member
Posts: 1226
Joined: 12 Mar 2002 18:30
Location: Illinois, USA

Post by Logan Hartke » 14 Apr 2002 20:37

Ferdinand Porsche wrote:Okay - but I'm warning you - I'm coming after you in my Tiger II ;) (frontal assault - then we'll see) hee hee hee!

FP
If I was in a T32, I'd accept in February, 1945. Your King Tiger would get a run for its money. The T32 had the armor and firepower of the Tiger II, but better mobility.

Logan Hartke

Return to “What if”