Falkenhayn's sons

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Falkenhayn's sons

Post by Peter H » 08 Sep 2007 01:44

I'm seeking any details on Erich von Falkenhayn's sons,Robert and Fritz,and their war service.

I think Robert was the oldest and is mentioned here,in late 1914:

"It is said that German Army Chief of Staff Erich von Falkenhayn's son won a case of champagne for remaining in a cloud of Nernst's "irritant" substance for a full five minutes without exhibiting any signs of discomfort."

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Post by abaus » 08 Sep 2007 05:07

Peter,

According to the 1916 genealogical handbook of the "Uradel," von Falkenhayn had two children, a son, Fritz and a daughter, Erika. HIs son was a Lt. in GGR 1. Can't provide anything more and I can't find a Robert v. F. mentioned either.

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Post by Peter H » 08 Sep 2007 13:43

Thanks Andy.

This article from Time Magazine,1934 mentioned a Richard von Falkenhayn as the son of Erich.Perhaps they meant he was the son of Eugene von Falkenhayn?Or he was a more distant relative?

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... id=googlep

Also as far as I know Fritz von Falkenhayn lived in Britain during WW2.


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Post by abaus » 08 Sep 2007 14:15

Peter,

I took another look at the 1916 handbook and found a Richard v. F., born 07.03.1897 who was then serving as an Lt. in GRzPf3. His father was Horst, a reserve Rittm., and grandfather was Richard, both of whom were landowners. While there is obviously a family connection to Erich and Fritz, it was not a close one.

Perhaps the article merely inadvertantly misstated or even stretched the facts to make for a better story line. Hard to say after all these years.

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Post by Peter H » 08 Sep 2007 15:19

Thanks Andy.

I've seen hardly anything mentioned about Erich von Falkenhayn's family life in books.He was such a detached personality anyway--his memoirs published in 1920 Die Oberste Heeresleitung, 1914-1916, in ihren wichtigsten Entschliessungen were written in the third person for example.Instead of "I" he uses "Falkenhayn".

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Post by Silke » 08 Sep 2007 15:56

Peter H wrote:his memoirs published in 1920 Die Oberste Heeresleitung, 1914-1916, in ihren wichtigsten Entschliessungen were written in the third person for example.Instead of "I" he uses "Falkenhayn".
A modest character! 8O
According to my book "Henning von Tresckow - Ein Preuße gegen Hitler" by Bodo Scheurig Fritz von Falkenhayn was living in the UK during the 1930s, but it isn´t mentioned when he came back to Germany.
Additionally, I´ve just checked several English and German web pages.
Maybe he was staying in the UK for a rather short period of time, maybe even for a vacation only, because on a website about the NSU manufactory in Neckarsulm, Germany he is mentioned as being its chairman from 1930 to 1945.
Source:
http://www.zweirad-museum.de/index/pub/nsu_story.html (in German)
More detailled info on his bio:
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/peopl ... nhayn.html

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Fritz v. Falkenhayn

Post by Glenn2438 » 08 Sep 2007 16:28

Peter,

Fritz v. Falkenhayn, born 27 September 1890 in Oldenburg. Entered the Kaiser Alexander Garde-Grenadier-Regiment Nr. 1 as a Fahnenjunker on 5 July 1911.

Fähnrich: 22.3.12
Leutnant: 19.11.12 (Patent 18.11.10 O)

From 1 May to 1 June 1913 with the Flieger-Bataillon Döberitz. 1 July to 15 August 1913 attached to the Feldfliegerstation in Thorn. 1 February to 30 June 1914 attached to Luftverkehr-Gesellschaft Joachimstahl.

Further career below.

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Post by Silke » 08 Sep 2007 16:51

Glenn, did you find a Robert von Falkenhayn as the son of Erich?

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Post by Peter H » 09 Sep 2007 01:45

Thanks gentleman.I really appreciate your help.

As Silke mentioned:.

http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/peopl ... nhayn.html
Fritz von Falkenhayn
*27.09.1890 Oldenburg
+ 03.03.1973 Ascona

Son of General Erich von Falkenhayn (+1922)
1911 - 1912 Leutnant im Kaiser Alexander Garde Gren. Regt.1
1913 Fliegertruppe / Beobachter
1914 Fliegertruppe / Flugzeugführer
01.1915 - 03.1915 BAO
04.1915 - 07.1918 Adjutant des Chefs des Feldflugwesens und komm. General der Luftstreitkräfte
07.1918 Flugzeugabsturz
12.1918 aus dem Wehrdienst als Hauptmann entlassen

1921 Vetreter der Daimler GmbH in New York (Mercedes Agency)
later Vorsitzender des Vorstands der NSU-Werke Neckarsulm

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 20 Jan 2012 14:10

Leutnant Fritz von Falkenhayn (left, with sword) leaving St. Joseph's Church in Cambrai after the funeral of Hauptmann Oswald Boelcke in October 1916. Fritz's father, General der Infanterie Erich von Falkenhayn, had been dismissed as Chief of the German General Staff two months earlier, but not before his son had been assigned to the staff of Major Hermann von der Lieth-Thomsen, Chief of Field Aviation (middle, saluting). Thomsen's deputy, Major Wilhelm Siegert (lower right), developed the BAO.

Source: "The Illustrated Red Baron" by Peter Kilduff
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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 18 Feb 2012 15:32

Richthofen was not completely out of uniform while visiting Germany's royal family. He did not have with him the full dress uniform, but under his leather coat he was wearing the traditional Uhlan's tunic bearing enough important awards to be recognisable: Iron Cross 2nd Class ribbon on the right-side row of buttons, Iron Cross 1st Class medal and Military Pilot's Badge on the left side, and, at his collar, the blue and gold badge of the Orden Pour Ie Merite. His friend Fritz Falkenhayn, scion of a noble military family dating back to the 16th century, wore a ribbons bar in lieu of seven decorations and the Iron Cross 1st Class, the Duchy of Oldenburg's Friedrich August Cross 1st Class and Military Pilot's Badge pinned to his tunic. Falkenhayn had begun his career with an elite guards grenadier regiment, but switched to aviation as an observer in 1913 and became a pilot the following year. On 27 November 1914, he was appointed adjutant to the Fliegerkorps of the German Supreme High Command. Falkenhayn admired and, as much as possible, supported Richthofen within the upper echelons of the German military command.
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