Gestapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
Gestapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
Hello
I'm looking about Gestapo members from Stapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau.
They were all tried in Giessen in West Germany:
Erich Bartels
Kurt Baresel
Hans Dörhage
Franz Hartmann
Otto Röhr
Ernst Schardt
George
I'm looking about Gestapo members from Stapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau.
They were all tried in Giessen in West Germany:
Erich Bartels
Kurt Baresel
Hans Dörhage
Franz Hartmann
Otto Röhr
Ernst Schardt
George
Re: Gestapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
SS-Stubaf. Kriminalrat Hans Dörhage:
DAL 01.10.1944
geb.: 18.10.1906
NSDAP-Nr.: 1.322.173
SS-Nr.: 395.204
SS-Stubaf.: 09.11.1943
Until March 1942 KdS Athen [Miller, Michael; in: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=72427]
DAL 01.10.1944
geb.: 18.10.1906
NSDAP-Nr.: 1.322.173
SS-Nr.: 395.204
SS-Stubaf.: 09.11.1943
Until March 1942 KdS Athen [Miller, Michael; in: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=72427]
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Ludger
Ludger
Re: Gestapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
Only there Dob:
Erich Bartels 2/03/1908
Ernst Schardt 8/02/1908
Otto Rohr 23/03/1907
Franz Hartmann 28/06/1909
Dylan.
Erich Bartels 2/03/1908
Ernst Schardt 8/02/1908
Otto Rohr 23/03/1907
Franz Hartmann 28/06/1909
Dylan.
Re: Gestapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
Maybe someone knows what was the position of Dörhage in Stapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau?
George
George
Re: Gestapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
George_W wrote:Hello
I'm looking about Gestapo members from Stapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau.
They were all tried in Giessen in West Germany:
Erich Bartels
Kurt Baresel
Hans Dörhage
Franz Hartmann
Otto Röhr
Ernst Schardt
George
There was one more defendant in the same trial: Scha., Hermann (verdict suspended by the Federal Supreme Court; no further trial). Some months later there was a trial in Giessen against Bau., Ernst, also from Sipo Zichenau-Schröttersburg (16.09.1976: 3 years & 3 months).
Any idea concerning the correct surnames?
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Ludger
Ludger
Re.: Hans Dörhage
Hey guys,
About Dörhage. Was he KdS or BdS in Athens??? I've seen almost all topics that are mentioning his name and in some of them he's refered to as the BdS in Greece, before W. Blume. But to be a BdS he had not the correct rank I think so therefor I guess he was only KdS.
But who can give me a correct answer here???
Here's one post that's mentioning him as BdS.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... e#p1109759
Greetings,
Mike
About Dörhage. Was he KdS or BdS in Athens??? I've seen almost all topics that are mentioning his name and in some of them he's refered to as the BdS in Greece, before W. Blume. But to be a BdS he had not the correct rank I think so therefor I guess he was only KdS.
But who can give me a correct answer here???
Here's one post that's mentioning him as BdS.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... e#p1109759
Greetings,
Mike
Re: Gestapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
Thanks a lot George!!George_W wrote:It was Hermann Schaper.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... er#p460923
George
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Re: Gestapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
I must ask here what was Dörhage's connection with Stapo "Schröttersburg-Zichenau and when? Furthermore, can anybody enlighten me on the post-war trial in Gießen and it's outcome? Thank you.
Re: Gestapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
Hans Dörhage - head of Abt.II (Innenpolitische Angelegenheiten) with Stapo Zichenau between April 1940 - December 1940 (as KK and from October 1940 Kriminalrat). In December 1940 he returned to Stapo Bielefeld.
About the trials (there were two trials)
http://www1.jur.uva.nl/junsv/brd/Tatortengfr.htm (case 834 against former Kriminalkommissar Ernst Baumann)
http://www1.jur.uva.nl/junsv/brd/Tatortengfr.htm (case 836 against Dr. Erich Bartels, Hans Dörhage and 5 others)
Two main suspects, Stapoleiters Schröttersburg-Zichenau, Hartmut Pulmer and Friedrich Schulz were withdrawn from the trial due to health condition. There was also investigation against 4 other men from this office (Willy Hinze, Rudolf Renner, Johannes Kunze and Fritz Lange) but was also discontinuated and they were never tried. SS-Stubaf Willy Hinze (Pulmer and Schulz deputy) died in 1975, before the trial opened.
George
About the trials (there were two trials)
http://www1.jur.uva.nl/junsv/brd/Tatortengfr.htm (case 834 against former Kriminalkommissar Ernst Baumann)
http://www1.jur.uva.nl/junsv/brd/Tatortengfr.htm (case 836 against Dr. Erich Bartels, Hans Dörhage and 5 others)
Two main suspects, Stapoleiters Schröttersburg-Zichenau, Hartmut Pulmer and Friedrich Schulz were withdrawn from the trial due to health condition. There was also investigation against 4 other men from this office (Willy Hinze, Rudolf Renner, Johannes Kunze and Fritz Lange) but was also discontinuated and they were never tried. SS-Stubaf Willy Hinze (Pulmer and Schulz deputy) died in 1975, before the trial opened.
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Re: Gestapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
Brilliant George, many thanks
Re: Gestapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
Hello Shane,Shane A Beaver wrote:I must ask here what was Dörhage's connection with Stapo "Schröttersburg-Zichenau and when? Furthermore, can anybody enlighten me on the post-war trial in Gießen and it's outcome? Thank you.
according to http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 8&t=217616 Dörhage was head of Amt III (SD)/Gestapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau in 1940.
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Re: Gestapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
Hello Ludger,
Stapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau Leiter Abt. II
KK/KR Hans Dörhage suceeded by Kriminalrat Wilhelm Apitz
Abt. III
KK Gerth, KK Rudolf Renner, KK Ernst Baumann
source: files from BA Ludwigsburg
Abt. III (Spionageabwehr) at that time (1940) was not SD but part of Gestapo. Dörhage was Stapo officer not SD. SD (Sicherheitsdienst) was separated office not included to Staatspolizei(leit)stelle.
Staatspolizeistelle was divided into three Abteilungen:
Abt. I (personal and administration)
Abt. II (Innenpolitische Angelegenheiten)
Abt. III (Abwehrangelegenheiten)
In late 1942 (as i remember correctly) Abt. II and Abt. III were combined into one Abt. IV and Kriminalrat Apitz became head of this new created Abteilung in Stapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau.
George
Stapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau Leiter Abt. II
KK/KR Hans Dörhage suceeded by Kriminalrat Wilhelm Apitz
Abt. III
KK Gerth, KK Rudolf Renner, KK Ernst Baumann
source: files from BA Ludwigsburg
Abt. III (Spionageabwehr) at that time (1940) was not SD but part of Gestapo. Dörhage was Stapo officer not SD. SD (Sicherheitsdienst) was separated office not included to Staatspolizei(leit)stelle.
Staatspolizeistelle was divided into three Abteilungen:
Abt. I (personal and administration)
Abt. II (Innenpolitische Angelegenheiten)
Abt. III (Abwehrangelegenheiten)
In late 1942 (as i remember correctly) Abt. II and Abt. III were combined into one Abt. IV and Kriminalrat Apitz became head of this new created Abteilung in Stapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau.
George
Re: Gestapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
Thanks a lot George, especially for the additional infos.
As far as your explanations concerning Abt. III: I must have been somehow "absent minded". Of course SD has organisational nothing to do within the Gestapo.
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Ludger
As far as your explanations concerning Abt. III: I must have been somehow "absent minded". Of course SD has organisational nothing to do within the Gestapo.
Greeitungs from
Ludger
Re: Gestapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
In addition
Stapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
SS-Stubaf RR Friedrich Rang, 11/1939-29/01/1940
SS-Stubaf RR Hartmut Pulmer, 30/01/1940-30/12/1942 (moved the office from Zichenau to Schröttersburg)
SS-Stubaf RR Friedrich Schulz, 05/01/1943-19/01/1945
deputies
SS-Stubaf KR Hermann Rössner, 1940 - early 1941
SS-Stubaf R-Ass Hans Schneider, 04/1940 - early 1942
SS-Stubaf R-Ass Willy Hinze, 04/1942 - 04/1943
SS-Hstuf KR Wilhelm Apitz (also head of Abt.IV in 1944), 1943-1945?
George
Stapo Schröttersburg-Zichenau
SS-Stubaf RR Friedrich Rang, 11/1939-29/01/1940
SS-Stubaf RR Hartmut Pulmer, 30/01/1940-30/12/1942 (moved the office from Zichenau to Schröttersburg)
SS-Stubaf RR Friedrich Schulz, 05/01/1943-19/01/1945
deputies
SS-Stubaf KR Hermann Rössner, 1940 - early 1941
SS-Stubaf R-Ass Hans Schneider, 04/1940 - early 1942
SS-Stubaf R-Ass Willy Hinze, 04/1942 - 04/1943
SS-Hstuf KR Wilhelm Apitz (also head of Abt.IV in 1944), 1943-1945?
George