1945 Lost German girl

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by CarlosXander » 01 Oct 2020 21:16

on the website United States Holocaust Memorial Museum there is a brief explanation of the confusion of the blackboards that mark the dates of the filming
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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by FF7_12 » 02 Oct 2020 11:54

I agree with Headwest. Anyway by the time that piece of film was recorded on 9 May, LGG was already gone, marched away to Pilsen with the rest on 8 May.
On that point, in the 8th May column of marchers, I think I see one of the chaps who was sitting next to her. He has a distinctive indent on the cheek. In the column he has tied back his white neckerchief and combed his haír.

Anybody with me on this ?
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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by CarlosXander » 03 Oct 2020 00:17

2 cameraman filming the same place

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by CarlosXander » 03 Oct 2020 23:47

a little late ... reevedavey dedicates a song to LGG .. he left his youtube page

https://youtu.be/sEwEq0pi7n8

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by FF7_12 » 09 Oct 2020 15:50

I reckon the guy sitting to the right of LGG is also in the marchers, or at least there is a very plausible resemblance in my view. Open neck and the cord with the ID tag hanging from neck is visible in both pictures. Size, hairtsyle, mouth expression, smile, water bottle.
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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by CarlosXander » 11 Oct 2020 16:48

excellent research work by Michaela Spružinová
entitled "Line of Identity"

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she determined that LGG was sent to the sbernem detention camp near Ejpovic
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And then the Red Cross took her along with other women to the women's detention camp in Regensburg Germany
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"photo taken on May 8, 1945"

In the records there may be the name of LGG but together with all the women detained in Regensburg due to Ejpovic,
a good tip to find the identity of LGG

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She posted signs in the area to search for LGG information


Thank you very much Michaela Spružinová for sharing your work in search of the identity of LGG

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by history1 » 11 Oct 2020 19:54

CarlosXander wrote:
11 Oct 2020 16:48
excellent research work by Michaela Spružinová
entitled "Line of Identity"
[...]
she determined that LGG was sent to the sbernem detention camp near Ejpovic
[...]
Thank you very much Michaela Spružinová for sharing your work in search of the identity of LGG
"Sbernem" derives from "sbírat (Czech/Slovakian) what means "collect". So she was sent to a collective point near Ejpovice.

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by CarlosXander » 16 Oct 2020 02:09

art created by Vidar Asheim 21-10-2018

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by ignacioosacar1 » 18 Oct 2020 15:12

Dear Forum,

Is it my impression or Vidar Asheim painting has a great resemblance with "The Cry" of Munch ?
It would be helpful if someone with greater art knowledge than I could comment on this painting.

Cheers all!

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by ignacioosacar1 » 18 Oct 2020 15:24

Who owns the painting ?

Where is it ?

Any information would be useful as well as the artist´s comment if he or she reads this post.

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by ignacioosacar1 » 18 Oct 2020 15:33

This is what Vidar Alhein comments about his painting in Facebook

"The sequence is filmed along a road in Czechoslovakia on May 8, 1945, the day after Nazi Germany
capitulated. She comes towards the camera and passes. In the next scene, she comes again, now
slower and reluctant, as if she is aware that she is being filmed. Swollen cheeks and a swollen
eye speaks its distinct language. She's in shock. When she passes again, she hides her face, but
then peek into the camera. This still image I chose as the subject for my painting.
But a motif is not a painting. There must be a picture composition, with axes, cross-axis,
scales and counterweights. In other words, a geometric travel work and a contemporary tone in colors and denominations.
And above all: it should tell a strong story. The whole painting must be included, the color must be
run beyond normal. We're going to experience her inferno. Munch's "Scream." But this
is not a scream that can be painted with red and yellow sound waves. I chose to let my face go.
as the inferno itself - in contrast to a dimmed landscape.
Behind the camera stood the American captain Oren William Haglund (1905-1972), who
a few kilometers outside Plzen managed to capture this poignant moment of the war's
Inhumanity. The German occupation is over, and the battleoccupiers are refugees
on the way home to Germany. Furious Czechs have allowed their vengeance to be free. The film shows
near-shot footage of German soldiers lying dead and dying on the side of the road. The hatred of the Germans was
much stronger here than in Norway.
The German girl made it despite being brutally beaten and raped. Later in the film sees
we her along with other female German soldiers in an American prison camp, clearly
light. Maybe because it's all over, and after all, she didn't end up in a Russian prison camp.
Later she was identified as Lore Bauer (1921-1994). She was a member of the Bund
Deutscher Mädel, the girls' parallel to the Hitler Jugend. There she was discharged to Helferin,
female aides to the German Air Force. At the end of the war, she was stationed in
Czechoslovakia as an anti-aircraft shooter to compensate for the great loss of male German
Soldiers.
On the film, she had shifted from uniform to civilian, with a tight sweater and large wide pants.
When she met the Allied troops, she was afraid they might be Russians. If so, the
she's bad, because the Russians had even more to avenge than the Czechs. This figured out
war photographer Haglund, and to show that they were not Russians, he gave her a US penny in
Hand.
Lora Bauer eventually came to Munich, where she settled and had two daughters. Grandson Emi
traveled to California and sought out Haglund's tomb in San Bernardino. On the tombstone she left
the same penny that his grandmother had received in 1945."

Cheers all!

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by Helge » 18 Oct 2020 16:36

Lore Bauer: she was born on February 3rd, 1921, in Kollerschlag, Austria. She was a proud member of the BDM (in 1931-1938, below her youth photo), the League of German Girls. She was transferred to an anti-aircraft warfare training center at Rendsburg, near Kiel.

In early 1945, it was finally time for her to get a job, and she was assigned to the new SS Flak Abteilung Alarm Prag. She did fine, she worked for Pan Am Airlines between 1965 and 1985, and lived up to October 30th, 1994.
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Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by Helge » 18 Oct 2020 16:38

Lore Bauer : SS Flak Abteilung Alarm Prag
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Sota ei päätä kuka on oikeassa, vain sen että kuka on jäljellä.
War does not decide who is right but only those who are left.

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by ignacioosacar1 » 18 Oct 2020 18:26

Dear Forum,

It would be very good for this investigation if we could all go back and check the post where the LORA BAUER name came from. You will clearly see that there are no certain evidences that she and LGG are the same person.

Cheers all !

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by CarlosXander » 19 Oct 2020 01:25

Dear forum
Here I upload a blog that I believe by uploading most of the research that was uploaded here, there I try to clarify several issues, such as why it is called Lost German Girl and most importantly how the name of Lore Bauer came up, any suggestion and correction by fovar me send it
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https://lostgermangirl.blogspot.com/202 ... woman.html

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