1945 Lost German girl

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by CarlosXander » 01 Dec 2023 23:05

Hello people of the forum,
you gave me a photo and very rare at the same time (I think it is the only one so far) of the group of German prisoners who arrived at Rokycany that May 8, 1945, there is no filming in that city that day In this photo you can see that even the military and civilians were together, that is to say that in that city they were apparently divided into 4 groups, the largest group composed of soldiers of the Wehrmacht, another group supposedly composed of members of the SS where In theory there was LGG, the group of Hungarians and Hiwis and one of civilians where the 2 civilian women seen in the filming that were there would be, many thanks to Marcel Beran, administrator of the group on Facebook Pilsen-Ejpovice-Rokycany
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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by AnnaKopec » 21 Dec 2023 23:22

Hi all. Recently I came across this footage on youtube - it was a footage capturing march of the German soldiers outside of Pilsner and only few seconds focused on LGG - i had no idea how famous she became sine then, yet she captured my interest in the same manner as everyone elses on this forum since 2009 from what I can see. I am from the Czech Republic, based in Prague. I believe most witnesses of the end of the war have passed away, yet I might try to reach out, just not sure to whom. I sometimes do visit Pilsner so might even try to find the place. I speak Czech so might be able to help with the research. If you got tips/ideas, feel free to share them, im just slightly busy so not sure if im able to promise any fast action🙂 but i was wondering if i could e.g. reach out to local museums as they might know some people who lived back then (as there are e.g. visits to schools organised with such witnesses of history. These folks definitely don't speak English so Czech might help)

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by CarlosXander » 22 Dec 2023 22:36

hello Anna
It is pleasant to find people from that place to search for information about the place where LGG was, in 2015 the Czech citizen Michaela Spružinová conducted an investigation about LGG but I could not find anything that is known about her, perhaps the only thing different she found was one of the possible fate that she had after she was filmed, I also contacted the Czech historian Tomáš Jalk who in 2016 was the consultant for the first investigation into LGG carried out by the TC24 channel but he could not find anything different either, he gives understand that it is very difficult to find something related to her, even the German pediatrician Gernot Kramper wrote a note about her in the German newspaper Stern which used the information that is in this forum to make that note and I couldn't find anything else either.
My question would be if I could find photos of the Pod Bruskou barracks in Mala Strana in 1940/1945, the only nearby photo I have is from 1914 and a map that is from that time, for me it would be a great help and also if you travel to Rokycany in In your museum there is a map of the place from the 30s/40s. I would like if you could take a complete photo that shows the 605 road well since the only photo I have does not show the Rokycany sector, I will leave the photos that are there.
Thank you very much for contacting the forum and more for your help
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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by CarlosXander » 25 Dec 2023 06:16

hello
That woman was filmed near the city of Chemnitz, Germany, at the end of April 1945 by the cameraman SGT W.H. Thomas
I leave you the link so you can see the complete filming where she appears
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https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn1004532
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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by Martinit002 » 29 Dec 2023 19:52

CarlosXander wrote:
25 Dec 2023 06:16
hello
That woman was filmed near the city of Chemnitz, Germany, at the end of April 1945 by the cameraman SGT W.H. Thomas
I leave you the link so you can see the complete filming where she appears
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https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn1004532
min 7.58

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I also think it could be her.
I hope so.

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by Martinit002 » 31 Dec 2023 11:34

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by Bachmann » 31 Dec 2023 23:57

Does she have a name ?

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by CarlosXander » 02 Jan 2024 22:43

Martinit002 wrote:
31 Dec 2023 11:34
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interesting, I think that soon with artificial intelligence we will be able to reconstruct his face for better identification

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by CarlosXander » 03 Feb 2024 12:34

LGG Image Restoration by Cristian Crisbasan

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by Bachmann » 03 Feb 2024 12:56

Wow

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by Emilie » 03 Feb 2024 17:09

Hello everyone,

Yes, wow, indeed !

Hi Carlos, Do you think it would be possible to make a reconstruction of the photo you have posted on nr 2589 with the same hair style as the first LGG photo you have posted on nr 2590 ? I think this way it would be much easier to compare the two girls and know whether they are the same or not ?
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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by CarlosXander » 05 Feb 2024 22:00

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by CraigM » 05 Feb 2024 22:57

I'm starting to think it's not the same girl, in spite of her injuries:

1. Eyes different distances apart.
2. Different shaped eyes.
3. Different eye colours.
4. LGG's eyes are more recessed.
5. The top girl has a small dimple on the end of her nose, LGG doesn't.

It would be good if we could see the ears. Ears are as unique as fingerprints.

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Re: 1945 Lost German girl

Post by Emilie » 06 Feb 2024 13:59

Hello,

Thank you very much for the posting, CarlosXander. I’ve been following this thread on and off but I never took part because I had more questions than answers. It is a shame that the LGG couldn’t be identified after all the in-depth work you’ve done, all of you. My inner feeling though is that girl has been identified, probably a long time ago, but she or her family didn’t want her to be exposed more than she already was. But that is just a feeling.

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