Gau Wartheland Group
Gau Wartheland Group
I submit the following for review and opinion
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Well it's the most convincing example of Wartheland badge I've seen in a long time.
Too bad the scans are below average especially for authentication for such a ultra rare
item. Can't say anything about the case as I've never seen a case for one of these, looks
as if it's a bit overcrowded in there. Looks also to have a makers stamp on the upper
lid lining.
Too bad the scans are below average especially for authentication for such a ultra rare
item. Can't say anything about the case as I've never seen a case for one of these, looks
as if it's a bit overcrowded in there. Looks also to have a makers stamp on the upper
lid lining.
I have 2 of these badges, one is numbered and came with a group, the other is unnumbered and presumably was the verstion for purchase.
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- Gau Warthe Commemorative Badge - Schimt Georg.jpg (22.46 KiB) Viewed 1539 times
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- Gau Warthe Commemorative Badge - Schimt Georg.- reverse..jpg (15.08 KiB) Viewed 1540 times
I also note that both of Chris's badges do not have the 2 cut outs between the
wings and eagles legs.
Also the last badge pictured shows another feature I've never seen before and shows
the frame work which holds the riveted eagle to the wreath being of a "n" shape
rather than of a "M" shape.
These "M" shaped sections, as can be seen above, can either come in a broad straight
edged "M" or a curvy shaped "M".
There seems to be all kinds of small variations with these private and issue
badges!!! Strange for such a limited issued badge.
The highest serial numbered Wartherland I've seen was the one that Bill posted
some time ago at #415.
wings and eagles legs.
Also the last badge pictured shows another feature I've never seen before and shows
the frame work which holds the riveted eagle to the wreath being of a "n" shape
rather than of a "M" shape.
These "M" shaped sections, as can be seen above, can either come in a broad straight
edged "M" or a curvy shaped "M".
There seems to be all kinds of small variations with these private and issue
badges!!! Strange for such a limited issued badge.
The highest serial numbered Wartherland I've seen was the one that Bill posted
some time ago at #415.
Somone asked me to provide some basic background info on the Gau Watherland badge.
The Gau Wartheland badge was awarded for meritorious service for the forming
of the Gau (in Poland). This is not an official Party award and was the making
of Gauleiter Artur Greiser. Even so this badge is like the holy grail of Gau
badges. (From a collecting point of view)
The Gau Wartheland badge was awarded for meritorious service for the forming
of the Gau (in Poland). This is not an official Party award and was the making
of Gauleiter Artur Greiser. Even so this badge is like the holy grail of Gau
badges. (From a collecting point of view)
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ORIGINAL WARTHELAND BADGE
Here is an example of an original period badge.
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Sorry about the quality of the scans. Will work on better.
As for the box, it was purchased separately (from the badge and the miniature) and had been advertised by a European dealer as a case for the Wartheland badge.
It appears that this initial assessment was done on the basis that the impressions on the inside of the box resembled the outline of the Gau Wartheland badge. However, when a Wartheland badge was placed in the box - although the outline of whatever had been in the box did suggest a Wartheland badge - the markings did not really line up with the structure of the badge itself.
The original occupant of the box seems to have had the same general outline and pin configuration of the Wartheland badge but was a little larger.
The source was a reputable dealer so I'm still trying to figure out if there is indeed any way the Wartheland badge could have produced the impressions in the box.
As for the box, it was purchased separately (from the badge and the miniature) and had been advertised by a European dealer as a case for the Wartheland badge.
It appears that this initial assessment was done on the basis that the impressions on the inside of the box resembled the outline of the Gau Wartheland badge. However, when a Wartheland badge was placed in the box - although the outline of whatever had been in the box did suggest a Wartheland badge - the markings did not really line up with the structure of the badge itself.
The original occupant of the box seems to have had the same general outline and pin configuration of the Wartheland badge but was a little larger.
The source was a reputable dealer so I'm still trying to figure out if there is indeed any way the Wartheland badge could have produced the impressions in the box.
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Nice pictures of this rare badge
I am just wondering why, when Greiser thought up the idea for this badge and arranged its presentation to a "special" group of persons who had been so instrumental in the setting up of the Gau, would he then authorise a number of firms to produce the badge and also allow versions to be put on sale for replacement of originals. I should have thought it more likely that if you had mislaid/lost the badge you would have to apply through Greiser or his office to get your replacement..?
Just wondering....
Regards
Matt Gibbs
Just wondering....
Regards
Matt Gibbs
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