► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Flak3.7 » 20 Feb 2018 23:12

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

Two more images from Ebay. I am not sure but I would say Hf.13 kitchens...

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You are correct, both are Hf.13's. Notice the 90 degree bracket on the chimney pointing down, Hf.14's point up and Hf.11/12 have a C bracket.

I missed the second photo in my Ebay searches, thanks for posting.

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Sturm78 » 21 Feb 2018 19:18

Thank you, Tim

Here,another image from Ebay. Any idea about these bakery trailers ? Sd.Ah.106 ??

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Maxschnauzer » 22 Feb 2018 04:14

Hi Sturm,
Yes, you are correct. IIRC there were normally 5 ovens per kompanie, as shown in this excellent photo.
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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Sturm78 » 27 Feb 2018 21:45

Thanks, Max

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 03 Mar 2018 23:28

Chow Time! As every Vet knows, the best time of the day. :milsmile:
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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Mar 2018 10:45

Hi all,

I need help with these two field kitchens:

Image 1: Hf. 12-14 ?? :?
Image 2: Hf.13 ?? :?

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by SIS 5 » 05 Mar 2018 17:43

Hi Sturm 78,

now to the field kitchens:
pic 1: Hf. 12
pic 2: Hf. 14.

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Sturm78 » 05 Mar 2018 20:46

Bert wrote
pic 1: Hf. 12
pic 2: Hf. 14.
Thank you very much for your help, Bert. :)
What are the most obvious visual differences between Hf.12 and Hf.14 ? :?

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Maxschnauzer » 09 Mar 2018 09:07

Chicken tonight! :milsmile: Can someone ID the door symbol? A stag I think.
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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by SIS 5 » 10 Mar 2018 11:45

Hi Max,

that could be the division sign of the 5th mountain division. The animal is not a stag, but an ibex.

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by SIS 5 » 10 Mar 2018 12:39

Hi Sturm 78,

excuse me please for the late answer to Your question.
The most obvious visual differences between Hf.12 and Hf.14 are:
the chimney: Hf. 12 with a ring at the top and a conical form, Hf. 14 without that ring and a normal round form
the grip on the chimney for folding: Hf 12 joined up and down, Hf. 14 only up
the wheels: Hf. 12 with 12 bolts, Hf. 14 with six bolts
the carriage body of the Vorderwagen: Hf. 12 made out of wood, Hf. 14 made out of steel sheet.
the spring swank connection: Hf. 12 with holes, Hf. 14 without holes.

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by SIS 5 » 10 Mar 2018 16:17

Hi Sturm 78,

here some pics for comparing (sources of the pics: "Gulaschkanonen" by Horst Hinrichsen, "Bespannt Fahrzeuge des deutschen Heeres" by Wolfgang Fleischer or expired ebay auctions).

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Maxschnauzer » 10 Mar 2018 23:31

SIS 5 wrote:Hi Max,

that could be the division sign of the 5th mountain division. The animal is not a stag, but an ibex.

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Many thanks, Bert.
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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Sturm78 » 11 Mar 2018 14:47

Bert wrote
excuse me please for the late answer to Your question.
The most obvious visual differences between Hf.12 and Hf.14 are:
the chimney: Hf. 12 with a ring at the top and a conical form, Hf. 14 without that ring and a normal round form
the grip on the chimney for folding: Hf 12 joined up and down, Hf. 14 only up
the wheels: Hf. 12 with 12 bolts, Hf. 14 with six bolts
the carriage body of the Vorderwagen: Hf. 12 made out of wood, Hf. 14 made out of steel sheet.
the spring swank connection: Hf. 12 with holes, Hf. 14 without holes.
Thanks a lot for your anwer, Bert. :wink:

About the chimneys I can not see see difference. I see all chimneys cylindrical, not conical... :?
The differencies are so small that in the most of the images I can not differenciate between both models....

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by SIS 5 » 11 Mar 2018 23:03

Hi Sturm 78,

here three more pics, Hf. 12, Hf. 14 and a better pic of the old chimney (here Hf. 11). I hope You can see the difference between the two chimneys better now.

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