Raketen-Werfer RW61

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Raketen-Werfer RW61

Post by Pax Melmacia » 04 May 2009 04:12

This was the weapon mounted on the Stürmtiger, supposedly originally planned as something like the Allies' Hedgehog or Squid antisub weapons. So why didn't the plan materialize? Too few weapons platforms left? :?

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Re: Raketen-Werfer RW61

Post by Simon Orchard » 04 May 2009 21:49

This is i believe what you're refering to? This surviving example was located defending some narrow straights leading in to the North Norwegian town of Tromsø.
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Re: Raketen-Werfer RW61

Post by Ironmachine » 05 May 2009 08:07

Perhaps the reason was the weapon's lack of success in its intended role?
About 1942, the German Navy had developed a short-barrel 38 cm (15") Raketenwerfer (literally, "Rocket Thrower") gun as an anti-submarine weapon. This was employed at least in Norway, but was unsuccessful in that role and it appears that few were manufactured.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_38cm_RTG.htm

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Re: Raketen-Werfer RW61

Post by Bjørn from Norway » 05 May 2009 11:38

Hello!
Here is a link on the weapon: http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_38cm_RTG.htm

It was however in use on some boats, I have a after-battle report from October 43 where it was used in Italy.

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Post by Mark McShane » 05 May 2009 15:16

Bjørn from Norway wrote:Hello!
Here is a link on the weapon: http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_38cm_RTG.htm

It was however in use on some boats, I have a after-battle report from October 43 where it was used in Italy.

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What was the outcome of the attack? Was the weapon a success?

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Re: Raketen-Werfer RW61

Post by Bjørn from Norway » 05 May 2009 18:03

Hello!
No, it does not say so, the whole boat itself was sunk ("Trapani"), it just shows there were 4 weapons of this kind aboard.
Not as carraige, but for defence.

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Post by Ironmachine » 05 May 2009 18:57

Is the Trapani you mention the same ship than the one in the quote below:
16 Oct, 1943
HMS Torbay (Lt. R.J. Clutterbuck, RN) torpedoes and sinks the German troopship Kari (1925 GRT, former French Ste. Colette, former Norwegian Kari, offsite link) and torpedoes and damages the Italian merchant (in German service) Trapani (1855 GRT) east of Naxos, Greece in position 36º59'N, 26º10'E.
The Trapani was further damaged that night by the British escort destroyer destroyer HMS Hursley and the Greek escort destroyer destroyer RHS Miaoulis. The wreck of the Trapani was finally destroyed off Kalymnos, Greece the following night by the British destroyers HMS Penn and HMS Jervis. (see map)
http://www.uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3498.html

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Re: Raketen-Werfer RW61

Post by Bjørn from Norway » 06 May 2009 09:57

Hello!
It says it happened in the harbour of Calino, is that in Greece?
It had 4 RAGs aboard, appearently-


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Re: Raketen-Werfer RW61

Post by stril » 06 May 2009 10:32

Hello
It would have been interesting if they had used 4XRaketen-Werfer RW61 on Trapani. That cant be right, and the report itself gives the answer. There is as mentioned 4XRag on Trapani, but only one man handling it. The 4 Rag was after the Trapani was destroyed(partly) moved to UJ 2101.
For obvious reasons its not the 38 cm RAg as mentioned in the tread.
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Re: Raketen-Werfer RW61

Post by Ironmachine » 06 May 2009 10:52

Bjørn from Norway wrote:It says it happened in the harbour of Calino, is that in Greece?
I suppose this "Calino" could well be the "Kalymnos, Greece" mentioned in the quote I posted.

Could you please, or perhaps stril who also seems to have access to the report, quote the pertinent part about the RAGs? It is a German after-action report, I suppose...

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Re: Raketen-Werfer RW61

Post by Bjørn from Norway » 07 May 2009 10:25

Hello!
It does mention 4 RAGs, one man is listed as operator. As Stil says, 4 RAGs with ammunition were moved to UJ 2101.
I am not sure, if these RAGs not are the same RAGs we discuss, they must be another weapon with the same designation?

Was there not a model, that actually fired a kind of anchor, which was kept in the air with parachute attached to the vessel by wires? As an anti-aircraft obstacle??

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Re: Raketen-Werfer RW61

Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 12 Jan 2010 15:31

Hello,
here is a good link:
http://www.wk2ammo.com/showthread.php?t=3699

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