With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

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With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

Post by tigre » 01 Jul 2009 22:45

Hello to all :D; I think I should post this new history in this forum too..................


With the 3 Pz through Poland – September 1939.

By Aug 22 1939, the XIX AK (Mot) under General der Panzer Truppen Heinz Guderian, had been gathered at the Training Ground (Truppenübungsplatz) of Gross-Born (Pommerania) within the framework of the General der Artillerie v. Kluge’s 4 AOK; its CoS was Oberst Nehring (former PR 5’s CO).

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A 3 Pz Div’s motorized unit heading east towards the border line with Poland – Aug 1939. Possibly from its peace-time garrisons at Berlin-Brandenburg.

The Corps mission was as follows: Move ahead between the Zempolno (right) and Konitz (left) getting across the Brahe and to reach the Vistula quickly in order to cut off the so-called “Polish Corridor” sealing off the polish forces deployed there.

To the right was deployed General Strauss’ II. AK and to the left the Grenz Watch Abschnitz 1 of General kaupisch. Behind the Corps was the Army’s reserve the 23 ID of General Count Brockdorff.

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A Pz Kw IV of PR 6 marching towards its readiness area.

Sources: Memorias de un Soldado. Heinz Guderian. Círculo Militar. Buenos aires.
KTB des Genralkommando XIX AK – Feldzug in Polen.
Geschichte der Panzerregiment 5. Kapitel 3.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... en/3PD.htm
http://www.feldgrau.com/heer3p.html
http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/
Subasta de eBay (finalizada).

Cheers. Raúl M 8-).
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Re: With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

Post by tigre » 04 Jul 2009 13:16

Hello to all :D; the story follows.........................

With the 3 Pz through Poland – September 1939.

Mission and Organization.

The Army Corps (XIX AK - Mot) was composed of the 3 Pz Div (Generalleutnant Frhr Geyr v. Schweppenburg), the 2 ID (Mot) and the 20 ID (Mot). The 3 Pz’s mission was to advance on the Corps’ right between the Zempolno and Kamionka, to cross over the Brahe at Hammermühle and proceed to the Vistula at Schwetz.

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The 3 Pz's road from Gross Born to the bank of the Narew river - sep 1939.

The Division’s TOE at that time was:

3.Schützen-Brigade "Eberswalde" Oberst Angern
Schützen-Regiment 3 Oberst Kleemann
Schützen-Bataillon I
Schützen-Bataillon II
Kradschützen-Abteilung 3 Oberstlt.v.Manteuffel

3.Panzer-Brigade "Berlin" Oberst (Gen.Maj.) Stumpff
Panzer-Regiment 5 "Wünsdorf" Oberstleutnant Conze
Panzer-Abteilung I
Panzer-Abteilung II
Panzer-Regiment 6 "Neuruppin" Oberst Rothenburg
Panzer-Abteilung I
Panzer-Abteilung II

Artillerie-Regiment 75 Oberstlt.Wimmer
Artillerie-Abteilung I
Artillerie-Abteilung II

Aufklärungs-Abteilung 3 (mot) Major Frhr.v.Wechmar
Panzerjäger-Abteilung 39
Nachrichten-Abteilung 39
Pionier-Bataillon 39 Major v.Mertens
Supply trains.

Besides it had been reinforced by the following units:

Panzerlehrabteilung (as III./ PR 5), Schw. Art. Abt 48 and 68, Nebelwerf. Abt 2 (less one battery) and the Pi Btl 43.

Sources: Memorias de un Soldado. Heinz Guderian. Círculo Militar. Buenos aires.
KTB des Genralkommando XIX AK – Feldzug in Polen.
Geschichte der Panzerregiment 5. Kapitel 3.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... en/3PD.htm
http://www.feldgrau.com/heer3p.html
http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/
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Re: With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

Post by tigre » 09 Jul 2009 05:42

Hello to all :D; the story follows.........................

With the 3 Pz through Poland – September 1939.

Mission and Organization (2º part).

When the movilization was established, the PR 5 lost its Commander, Oberst Nehring, who was to act as CoS in the XIX AK (Mot), being succeeded by Oberstleutnant Conze (Panzerlehrregiment’s CO); besides the I.Abteilung gave its 3. Kompanie and the II. Abteilung its 7. Kompanie to the newly raised Panzer-Ersatzabteilung 5. So as 01 Sep 1939 the regiment tanks’ strenght (Ist-Bestand) with 6 companies, was as follows:

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Being the PR 6’s total tanks’ strenght the following: 59 Panzer 1, 79 Panzer 2, 3 Panzer 3, 9 Panzer 4 and 8 Befehlspanzer (command tanks).

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An element of the Kradsch. Btl ready to march from Gross Born – Aug 1939.

Before the war and while the armored vehicles were at Gross-Born a big white cross was painted on it. That white cross meant the vehicle was a German ones. However it made easy the aim for the polish antitank guns also, so that white cross was later erased.

Sources: Memorias de un Soldado. Heinz Guderian. Círculo Militar. Buenos aires.
KTB des Genralkommando XIX AK – Feldzug in Polen.
Geschichte der Panzerregiment 5. Kapitel 3.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... en/3PD.htm
http://www.feldgrau.com/heer3p.html
http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/
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Re: With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

Post by tigre » 11 Jul 2009 13:19

Hello to all :D; the story follows.........................

With the 3 Pz through Poland – September 1939.

War. Sept 01 1939.

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Pz Kw I and II ready to march towards the polish border line from the Training ground at Gross-Born.

The attack went under way at 04:45 hours with the Army Corps Commander, General der Panzertruppe Guderian following the movement of the 3. Pz Brig “Berlin” behind the PR 5 (Oberstleutnant Conze).

Already at 05:10 while heading to Witkowo the Corps’ Commander took artillery fire, but it did not came from the enemy side but from the German heavy artillery which was supporting the 3 Pz’s attack. While traying to get out of the fire zone the schützenpanzerwagen’s driver became nervous and fell in a ditch and one of the axles was wrenched.

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Pz Kw I and Pz Kw II of the 3 Pz marching through the so called "Polish Corridor"; to the right a schützenpanzerwagen which carried the Army Corps Commander (General Guderian).

At 09:00 hours in order to secure the Corps’ right flank parts of the 23 ID (AA 23 and Pz Abw Abt 23) were detached from Grunau to Zempelburg (Sapolno) and the ground north of it.

At 11:25 after a short but vicious fight against polish antitank guns (8./ 22 pp) the PR 6 (Oberst Rothenburg) took Gross-Klonia (Klonię Wielką) and proceeded to Kamnitz. There were killed 1 Officer, 1 Cadet Officer and 8 men belonging to the 7./PR 6 under Hptm.Friedrichs .

Sources: Memorias de un Soldado. Heinz Guderian. Círculo Militar. Buenos aires.
KTB des Genralkommando XIX AK – Feldzug in Polen.
Geschichte der Panzerregiment 5. Kapitel 3.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... en/3PD.htm
http://www.feldgrau.com/heer3p.html
http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/
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Re: With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

Post by tigre » 15 Jul 2009 13:06

Hello to all :D; the story follows.........................

With the 3 Pz through Poland – September 1939.

War. Sept 01 1939.

Around noon, the PR 5 together with its brother regiment, the PR 6, had reached the Brahe river, which ran from south to north through the Tucheler Heide. The 3. Pz Brigade "Berlin" with attached elements from the AA 3 (Major Frhr.v.Wechmar), had moved 30 kilometers ahead into the "Polish Corridor" making a wedge in the enemy front.

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First refuelling close to Bagnitz – 01 Sep 1939.

At 14:30 hours the Corps’ CP was shifted to Tryziany (Zahn). The Corps Commander went to Pruszcz (Prust) where were the 3 Pz’s troops, arriving there at 16:00 hours, the Divisional Commander was not there and the PR 6 officers reported on the Brahe’s situation. The PR 6 Commanding Officer did not believe his regiment could get across that day. The troops were to take a rest on the spot.

Guderian was dissastified with that situation when a young Leutnant with his sleeves rolled up approached and told him: Sir, I came from the front, the polish resistance was weak on the Brahe. The attack failed because nobody leads it. You should go there Sir; and the amazed Corps Commander did so, reaching the Brahe´s bank at Hammermühle (Sokole Kuznica) between 16:00 and 17:00 hours.

Sources: Memorias de un Soldado. Heinz Guderian. Círculo Militar. Buenos aires.
KTB des Genralkommando XIX AK – Feldzug in Polen.
Geschichte der Panzerregiment 5. Kapitel 3.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... en/3PD.htm
http://www.feldgrau.com/heer3p.html
http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/
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Re: With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

Post by Peter K » 15 Jul 2009 14:15

Hi!

Thanks for excellent photos and descriptions, Tigre! More follows:

Panzerkampfwagen IV from Pz.Rgt.6 from 3. Pz.Div. completely destroyed in Polskie Łąki near Plewno on 03.09.1939:

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More AFVs from 3. Pz.Div. eliminated during heavy combats against Polish cavalry between Bukowiec and Polskie Łąki:

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Pz.Kpfw.IV destroyed in Polskie Łąki and several more tanks from 3. Pz.Div. eliminated in this area can be seen:

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Knocked out Panzerkampfwagen III Ausf. E:

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Do you have anything about combats between Bukowiec - Polskie Łąki - Tuszyny - Świekatowo - Plewno, Tigre?

Cheers!
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Re: With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

Post by tigre » 15 Jul 2009 14:55

Hello Domen :D; thanks for joining and going a little forward....................

Tuszyny 1939.

On 01 september 1939, in the afternoon the 3rd Panzer Division had forced the river Brahe at Hammermuhle, reaching Swiekatowo by nightfall. On 02 september 1939 the Polish 27 Infantry Division was moving back towards Torun (but later was changed to Bydgoszcz), marching in two columns.

The western column, 50 Infantry regiment (50 Pulk Piechoty) plus III/ Light Artillery Group (3/27 pal) under LtCol Adam Werschner marched off via Trutnowo - Świekatów - Serock – Wudzyń. The eastern column, the bulk of the division (mainly 23 Infantry Regiment, 24 Infantry Regiment and 27 Light Artillery Group) under Gen. Brig. Juliusz Drapella via Błądzim - Tuszyny - Łowin - Pruszcz Pomorski. In this scene took place the following story:

Four tanks against a whole division. (from: http://www.deutsche-landser.de/berichte/15001.htm)

The abteilung advanced to Swiekatowo and went into position. It was ordered that a platoon proceed to Tuszyny to clear up the situation; the division did not know yet what happened to the north in the Tucheler Heide. Presumably polish troops will try to break through towards the south, this fact must be avoided.

The Oberleutnant that led the platoon pressed on with its four heavy tanks in loosely formation. It was in the morning, 02 september, around 11:00 hours; a clear and beautiful autumn day (it was summer yet indeed). The Oberleutnant was sat down in the foremost tank, slim and blond, already knew the fight in Spain, earning there the Spanish's Golden Cross. He opened the hatch and searched for the enemy; the engines roared, the chains rattled. Left of the Oberleutnant was sat down the gunner and right of him the loader and in front beside the driver, was sat the radio operator constantly in connection with the company, that remained in Swiekatowo. The Oberleutnant was constantly connected with the other 3 tanks of the platoon by a laryngeal microphone and by its headphones. So the panzers rattled to the north.

Nothing was seen yet. Everything was calm. The small place Tuszyny with its straw-covered little houses lay peacefully in the midday sun. As precaution the Oberleutnant closed the hatch’s tower of his vehicle, but the place was not occupied by the enemy. Without firing a shot, the tanks advanced through it. At the town exit the platoon took a position, left and right of the road leading north. The situation remained calm, only polish civilians trying to flee towards north. The hatches were opened and the crews sat down on the edge of the road enjoying of a breakfast. One hour had past.

Suddenly ones pointed out to the place where the road and the dark forest merged each other, 3 kilometers away. Did not somewhat moved there?. It looked like… the point of one polish column. The men climbed onto theirs tanks, the hatches were closed, the turrets turned, the eyes kept watching through the visors. The platoon´s leader ordered fire. The distance was, however, too large yet; forward, instructed the Oberleutnant and the tanks moved. At 800 meters the tanks fired on again and this time the poles fled toward the forest. We shall chase them, asked one Feldwebel by radio, no, we hold the position answered the Oberleutnant. The tanks moved back to the town’s exit.

It became 01:00 PM and the forest’s edge remained quiet and empty. One half hour past when the poles resumed the march again and emerged from the forest, infantry, riders, cars, unit’s trains, etc. The cannons were aimed toward the enemy. The gunners let them approach, the point was now at 1500 meters; the Oberleutnant ordered that we should open the fire at 1200 meters. As it was ordered, the guns spat its projectiles and the tanks trembled. The panic spread again among the polish troops; the vehicles were blown up, the men and horses ran about. Each tank delivered 10 shots, 40 shots in total it was enough, the road was empty and quiet again. The crews opened the hatches of its tanks, because it became hot inside. The Oberleutnant tried to get in contact via radio communication with his company at Swiekatowo asking for reinforcements. The radio operator tried again and again but without success. It was 3:00 PM now, a polish recce plane approached fast, circled over the tanks and disappeared. The poles knew now what had happened, only four tanks.

The position was changed, the tanks moved 800 meters further ahead in order to take a new position at a farmstead located there. Meanwhile the communication with the company was restored again, the Oberleutnant asked for reinforcements but the company answered that a polish attack was coming at Swiekatowo; so the platoon must hold its position at all cost alone, reinforcements would be send ASAP.

The poles advanced again from the forest’s edge. The enemy were closer and closer, the gunners recognized the brown kaki silhouttes. The cannons targeted the enemy and fired at 500 meters and each shot was a direct hit. The poles were near Tuszyny and tried to go around the farmstead which was burning now. It was 05:00 PM and the tanks were still holding its position without relief. The ammunition became scarce, the Oberleutnant had only 5 shells in his panzer. Nevertheless the platoon shot lively. Suddenly two german tanks arrived as reinforcement and the Oberleutnant ordered “forward”, the poles did not expect this. The sixs tanks rolled on in a thick cloud of dust. Some poles started to run, some held up and some remained laid. Suddenly the tank was hit, the driver turned the vehicle and disappeared inside a house. The Oberleutnant ordered “ polish pak ahead turn to the left”. They had driven directly onto an antitank position but nothing happened, a miracle, the projectile slipped under the belly’s tank, only later the radio operator informed that he had been wounded in his arm. Finally the village was empty of enemies and five tanks gathered. At the village exit, behind a house laid the missed tank. “Shot! thought the Oberleutnant. He knew the picture of a shot tank still from Spain. He approached. Not far from the tank also laid the Polish Pak with its crew. The tank must have destroyed it at the same time, while it was shot. Beside the tank laid the tank leader and the gunner side by side. Inside he found the driver and the radio operator. All dead. Only the loader was missing (POW?). One company of another abteilung relieved the plattoon and proceeded the advance, the Oberleutnant returned to Swiekatowo and delivered his report about the action at Tuszyny.

Any idea about who was the Oberleutnant (Spanish's Golden Cross winner). Any info would be appreciate. Regards. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).
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Re: With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

Post by Peter K » 15 Jul 2009 15:16

Thanks Tigre!

And here some more photos:

German soldier from 20. Infanterie-Division (mot.) KIA during combats for Hill 179 near Chojnice:

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Some interesting photos and maps can be found also here:

http://www.dws-xip.pl/wojna/walka/pomorze1.html

Polish soldier KIA somewhere in the Corridor:

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Column of Polish 9th Light Artillery Regiment after heavy Stuka bombings:

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PZL P-11c fighter of Captain Laskowski shot down in the locality Gruta:

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Panzerspahwagen:

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Famous photo - this place is also shown in almost every video from the Polish campaign:

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Maps - I./Panzer-Regiment 10. (not marked here) was supporting German 21. and 228. Infantry Divisions:

Situation on 01.09.1939 in the morning:

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Situation on 01.09.1939 in the evening:

As you can see Polish 35. Infantry Regiment from 9. Infantry Division was under pressure of two German motorized divisions (20. and 2.), 34. Infantry Regiment was under pressure of one German Panzer division (3.) and 22. Infantry Regiment from the same division (9.) was under pressure of three German infantry divisions (32., 3. and 50.):

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Situation on 02.09.1939 in the evening:

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Situation on 03.09.1939 in the afternoon - 23. Infanterie-Division is finally marked (why it wasn't marked before?):

This is not marked on this map, but on 03.09.1939 German 10. Panzer-Division entered the battle in the Corridor:
Am 3. September 1939 um 11:30 Uhr überschreitet das Regiment die polnische Grenze im Kriegsmarsch. Durch die Tucheler Heide führt der Vormarsch über Berent, Schöneck und Stieblau. Nördlich von Dirschau erreicht das Regiment ohne Feindberührung Danziger Gebiet. Bei Käsemark überschreitet es die Weichsel auf einer Kriegsbrücke. Von dort aus, geht es im Landmarsch und im Eisenbahntransport zum Truppenübungsplatz Arys in Ostpreußen. Ausgeladen wird das Regiment in Johannisburg und Gehlenburg. Nach kurzer Bereitstellung überschreitet das Regiment am 7. September 1939 die Grenze bei Schwiddern.
German Panzerkampfwagen II described as knocked out in Gutowiec (near Rytel) - maybe from 10. Pz.Div.?

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German 73. Infanterie-Division is also not marked on the map below, but in fact it entered operations in the Corridor on 03.09.1939 and marched further towards the Vistula river - Infanterie-Regiment 213. from 73. Inf.Div.:
Im Polenfeldzug nahm das Regiment bei Marschleistungen von 30 km am Tage am Vormarsch teil. Es ging durch die Tuchlower Heide bis nach Mewe an der Weichsel.
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During combats in the Corridor and the Tucholskie Forests Polish 9. Infantry Division lost almost 2/3 of its equipment and forces (either destroyed, cut off or captured - cut off forces of course still kept fighting, liquidation of the pocket took the Germans many days), 27. Infantry Division lost around 40% of equipment and soldiers either destroyed, cut off or captured, and Pomorska Cavalry Brigade also suffered very heavy casualties (around 60% of initial strength).

One more map:

German advances in northern Poland until the morning on 07.09.1939 - positions of 218. Inf.Div. are also marked:

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Re: With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

Post by Peter K » 16 Jul 2009 00:14

Hi Tigre!,

Your excellent description refers to combats near Tuszyny fought by 3. Pz.Div. against Polish infantry on 02.09.1939. Of course this German claim about several tanks fighting against the whole division is an exaggeration - only elements of two regiments from Polish 27. Infantry Division were fighting there and Germans de facto had got more forces in the nearbyhood, not just these tanks - besides, the whole division is not even physically able to gather in one small village. :wink:

But combats near Tuszyny fought on 02.09.1939 were not the only combats near Tuszyny which took place during the Polish Campaign. :D

Heavy fights near Tuszyny once again took place on 03.09.1939. This time they were fought by 16th Uhlan Regiment (from Pomorska Cavalry Brigade) and 2nd battery of 11. Horse Artillery Battalion - these forces were repulsing attacks of units from 3. Panzer-Division and 23. Infanterie-Division along the line Bukowiec - Tuszyny - Polskie Łąki. At 7:00 AM on 03.09.1939 Polish 16th Uhlan Regiment occupied positions between Bukowiec and Polskie Łąki and sent reconnaissance squads towards all nearby villages Around 9:00 AM on 03.09.1939 cavalry patrol under command of Cpl. Świderski reported about big German grouping of tanks and infantry in the locality Polskie Łąki. From the observation post Polish soldiers noticed the whole German battalion supported by tanks and artillery, which was preparing to attack. Soon Germans attacked Polish positions but all attacks were repulsed under heavy casualties for the defenders and also for the attackers. In total the battle lasted for several hours. 16th Uhlan Regiment lost around 131 soldiers and 60% of all horses during these combats. Major Oskar Zawadi, starszy wachmistrz Wacław Michalski and plutonowy Stanisław Kostyka were among those Polish soldiers who lost their lives then. During these combats 2nd battery of 11. Horse Artillery Battalion distinguished itself and inflicted heavy casualties to the Germans, reported eliminating 8 tanks - including 5 eliminated by gun commanded by Cpl. Ceglarski (so we can say that he is an Anti-Tank ace). Photos of German tanks eliminated near Bukowiec - Tuszyny - Polskie Łąki on 03.09.39 can be seen above.

Despite their excellent combat performance near Bukowiec - Polskie Łąki - Tuszyny (occupied with very heavy losses however - 131 soldiers definitely lost), only ca. 50% of the whole 16th Uhlan Regiment managed to escape from the pocket which was created by Germans around Świekatowo. But even though, as many as 150 Uhlans (so ca. 17 percent of the whole regiment) from 16th Uhlan Regiment took part in the last battle of the Polish Campaign - battle of Kock.

Also if it comes to 2nd battery of 11. Horse Artillery Battalion, which eliminatd so many tanks near Bukowiec - its commander was Cpt. Janusz Pasturczak.

And the commander of 16th Uhlan Regiment was Colonel Arnold Russocki.

By the way - Panzerkampfwagen IV destroyed in Polskie Łąki, the same place - in 1939 and today:

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Edit:

But if it comes to this information:
But even though, as many as 150 Uhlans (so ca. 17 percent of the whole regiment)
This is plausible but quite improbable. I think that these 150 Uhlans were rather from Ośrodek Zapasowy (Spare Centre) of Pomorska Cavalry Brigade.

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Re: With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

Post by tigre » 16 Jul 2009 14:15

Thanks Domen :D; a little rewind here.............

With the 3 Pz through Poland – September 1939.

War. Sept 01 1939.

Then having ascertaining the situation there, General Guderian went to Lachowo where he put in motion parts of the Pz Lehr Abt, the I./ PR 5 with parts of II./ SR 3 later reinforced by Pi Kp Beigel (Pi Btl 39) and the KSB 3. The crossing at Lachowo was a success and pressed on across the Brahe at Hammermühle (Sokole Kuznica).

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Polish POWs taken at Hammermühle - Sep 01 1939.

The river crossing was over by 18:00 hours and the 3 Pz had reached the attack’s objective for that day: Swiekatowo. The AA 3 was sent towards the Vistula reaching that river during the night at Schwetz (Swiecie).

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Polish soldiers captured on the Brahe within the Tucheler Heide - Sep 01 1939.

The 23 ID after carrying out heavy marches had reached Pruszcz (Prust) with its advance guards. The neighbour to the right, 32 ID (II AK) at 13:30 hours had seized Viecborg (Vandsburg) and Sepolno (Zempelburg). At 17:30 hours reached Makowarsko (Monkowarsk).

Sources: Memorias de un Soldado. Heinz Guderian. Círculo Militar. Buenos aires.
KTB des Genralkommando XIX AK – Feldzug in Polen.
Geschichte der Panzerregiment 5. Kapitel 3.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... en/3PD.htm
http://www.feldgrau.com/heer3p.html
http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/
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Re: With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

Post by tigre » 16 Jul 2009 14:25

Hello Domen :D;
German Panzerkampfwagen II described as knocked out in Gutowiec (near Rytel) - maybe from 10. Pz.Div.?
I do not think so as you can read before........
Durch die Tucheler Heide führt der Vormarsch über Berent, Schöneck und Stieblau. Nördlich von Dirschau erreicht das Regiment ohne Feindberührung Danziger Gebiet.
The PR 8 had reached the area of Danzig without enemy resitance. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

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Re: With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

Post by tigre » 18 Jul 2009 13:12

Hello to all :D; the story follows.........

With the 3 Pz through Poland – September 1939.

02 September 1939.

New orders for this day were issued for the 23 ID at 04:40 hours by radio and for the 2 ID (Mot) at 05:00 hours by one liaison officer. The Kampfgruppe Kleemann (Kradsch. Btl 3 reinforced) which was covering the north flank should be relieved by Pz abw. Abt 23 and AA 2; AA 23 (attached to 3 Pz) should reconnoitre southwards after crossing the Brahe.

At 05:00 hours the 3 Pz radioed that Kampfgruppe Angern had reached the lagoons west of Lubania Lipiny.

At 10:00 hours critical situation, 3 Pz radioed that it was fighting heavily with strong enemy. The 23 ID reported that its IR 9 had reached Bagienica (Bagnitz).

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A Pz Kw II after the struggle on Sep 02 1939.

At 12:15 hours Kampfgruppe Kleemann deployed on the Brahe’s western bank went to the attack and the enemy resistance was broken.

At 15:00 hours, Pi Btl 32 (2 ID) and Pi Btl 43 (attached to 3 Pz) should build a 16 ton’s bridge south of the railway bridge of Sokole-Kuznica (Hammermühle).

At 17:10 hours, the IR 9, deployed on the railway enbankment east of Sokole-Kuznica (Hammermühle), rejected heavy attacks coming from Klonowo and Lubiewo; at 19:45 it was ordered to 23 ID that IR 67 should proceed eastwards after crossing the railway bridge while the IR 9 remained there holding its position.

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Meanwhile......

The Kradsch. Btl 3 went ahead reaching Swiekatowo and then camped in a wood nearby. In the early morning Kradsch. Btl 3 started its advance towards the Vistula-river followed shortly afterwards by the Panzerbrigade and Kampfgruppe Stumpff.

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With the peasants......

And...........

On Sep 02 1939, the AA 3 reached the Vistula river but sadly it had some casualties during a firefight with polish troops at Poledno. There fell leading his Platoon Leutnant Werner Adam (2º son of General Adam) and Rittmeister v.Prittwitz und Gaffron, 2./ AA 3’s CO was seriously wounded and died soon afterward at the Main Aid Station.

Sources: Memorias de un Soldado. Heinz Guderian. Círculo Militar. Buenos aires.
KTB des Genralkommando XIX AK – Feldzug in Polen.
Geschichte der Panzerregiment 5. Kapitel 3.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... en/3PD.htm
http://www.feldgrau.com/heer3p.html
http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/
Subasta de eBay (finalizada).
subasta de Historical Media, LLC (finalizada)

Cheers. Raúl M 8-).
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Re: With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

Post by tigre » 22 Jul 2009 12:15

Hello to all :D; the story follows.........

With the 3 Pz through Poland – September 1939.

03 September 1939.

At 05:00 hours the 3 Pz resumed its advance towards Culm-Schwetz while the 23 ID, with main effort to its east flank, pressed again Plewno. At 07:30 hours the 3 Pz was fighting against the line Przechowo – Plewno. The PR 6’ spearhead had reached the road Tuchel – Schwetz by 08:30 hours; the Divisional CP at Poledno. At 09:40 hours the Luftwaffe bombed the 3 Pz Brigade’s staff which was located on height 91 (2,5 kilometers north-northwest of Terespol).

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Situation on Sep 03 1939.

At 12:35 the 3 Pz radioed that it was running out of artillery ammunition. At 14:45 hours the 3 Pz Brigade had reached Laskowice – Oslowo – Lolek. At 16:30 hours the 32 ID reached the line road Tuchel – Schwetz northwest of Terespol; also reached the division columns with fuel and ammunition. Group von Mertens closing Schwetz. At 16:40 hours Group Angern (reconnaissance detachment, riflemen and artillery) at Grupa Dolna. At 21:00 hours the 23 ID along Polskie – Lakie – Plewno – Bramka.

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Polish’s POWs taken at Grupa Dolna – 03 Sep 1939.

with the Kradsch. Btl 3........

On Sep 03 1939, while leading the advance, the 2./Kradsch. Btl 3 was fired shortly after had reached Drozdowo and was halted. The 3./Kradsch. Btl 3 and the weakened 1./kradsch. Btl 3 were sent to help. While moving along the railroad behind Belno, the 1./ Kradsch. Btl 3 took a train with 4 officers and 128 men.

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Polish POWs.

And the Aufkl. Abt 3.......................

On Sep 03 1939 at 04:00 hours, the division marched off over Poledno – Drozdowo with the A.A.3 in the lead. Later, The A.A.3 got the order to take Schwetz. The A.A.3 surpassed Schwetz after sunset advancing north along the Vistula river.

Sources: Memorias de un Soldado. Heinz Guderian. Círculo Militar. Buenos aires.
KTB des Genralkommando XIX AK – Feldzug in Polen.
Geschichte der Panzerregiment 5. Kapitel 3.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... en/3PD.htm
http://www.feldgrau.com/heer3p.html
http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/
Subasta de eBay (finalizada).
PANZER Photo Album - Aufkl. Abt 3 - -Sudetenland, Poland. Auction of Historical media 2007. LLC (now expired). Sábado, 25 de Octubre de 2008.

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Re: With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

Post by tigre » 25 Jul 2009 13:11

Hello to all :D; the story follows.........

With the 3 Pz through Poland – September 1939.

04 September 1939.

The 23 ID attacked towards Czarna Woda. Assault against the enemy at Terespol towards Swiecie (Schwetz) y Grupa (Gruppe).

At 01:45 hours the 23 ID reported that the enemy’s action had been increased against its positions at Plewno (Julienhof) – Branica (Branitz). At 02:15 hours the 23 ID’s Commanding Officer talked over a polish breakthrough with the Corps’ CoS then requested armored support. By means of two polish officer (Ucranians) who were taken prisoners, it was known that the German troops were facing the 10. Div (later was ascertained it was really the 9 DP) and the 27 DP. At 02:50 hours the Divisional Commander reported that the Unit held its positions. At 05:30 hours the 23 ID was deployed along the line Plewno – Branica facing north.

At 08:15 hours, the 3 Pz without Combat Groups Kleemann and Mertens was at Grupa Gorna (Ober-Gruppe) and Grupa Dolna (Nieder-Gruppe) without fuel and ammunition supply. Combat Group Kleemann attacked form Poledno via Terespol towards Sulnowko and Group Mertens was joining its parent unit. The 32 ID was securing Swiecie (Schwetz) and Przechowo (Schönau) with one infantry regiment (IR 94).

At 12:00 hours, the 23 ID had reached Czarna Woda with two infantry regiments. At 12:15 hours the Army’s Commanding Officer was told about the Corps’ situation; the ring had been closed around the polish troops.

At 17:30 hours was reported to AOK that the Army Corps had reached the line Bzowo – Jezewo – Taszewko – Grupa. At the Grupa’s Training Ground the enemy offered some resistance yet. For the time being were captured 4.000 to 6.000 men and 350 horses. Units destroyed so far 9 Div, 2/3 27 Div, Cav Brig Pomorska, Group Stargard (parts of it) and ON Brig Tuchel.

with the Kradsch. Btl 3........

On Sep 04 1939, the Panzerbrigade reinforced with the Kradsch. Btl 3 and two batteries 2. and 4./A.R.75 received the order to cross the Mateva-sector and attack Grupa from the west in broad formation.

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Remnants of a polish engineers column....................

And the Aufkl. Abt 3.......................

On Sep 04 1939 at 04:00 hours, the A.A.3 started its advance along the Vistula towards Graudenz. In villages some disrupted polish soldiers fired on the unit but were ignored. Later de detachment took up defensive positions there.

Sources: Memorias de un Soldado. Heinz Guderian. Círculo Militar. Buenos aires.
KTB des Genralkommando XIX AK – Feldzug in Polen.
Geschichte der Panzerregiment 5. Kapitel 3.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... en/3PD.htm
http://www.feldgrau.com/heer3p.html
http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/
Subasta de eBay (finalizada).
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Re: With the 3 Pz through Poland - 1939.

Post by tigre » 25 Jul 2009 13:14

Hello to all :D; the story follows.........

With the 3 Pz through Poland – September 1939.

05 September 1939.

Army’s Order for this day, the Army Korps was to destroy the encircled enemy by means of a concentric attack. Army Korps’ order: the 3 Pz from the line Sulnowo – Grupa Dolna (Nieder Gruppe) – Graudenz; the 23 ID and 2 ID (Mot) from the line: fork 4 kilometers southwest Grupa Dolna – road to Huta; the 20 ID (Mot) coming from the north and maintaining the liaison with the 2 ID and its left flank on the Vistula.

At 10:00 hours the attack went under way with success. After mopping up the polish remnants 2000 soldiers were taken as POWs besides 32 guns. Own losses 1 % KIA and 3 % WIA; tanks losses 6 to 8 vehicles out of 350 Pz Kw due to enemy fire.

The 23 ID was detached from the XIX AK (Mot). It was received the message that the Führer was to pay a visit to that sector of the frontline next day.

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The weapons were silent for the time being........

With the Kradsch. Btl 3.................

From 04 Sep 1939: A small detachment under Hauptmann Beez took 300 prisoners in a very short time. Leutnant Behrend organized the transport of the polish prisoners.

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On Sep 05 1939, the 3 Pz did not see any action. The Kradsch. Btl 3 mopped out the Vistula’s banks for polish soldiers while the 3./K.3 took position on the dam. A reinforced Platoon under Leutnant .Schmidt crossed the Vistula to Graudenz.

And the Aufkl. Abt 3..........

On Sep 05 1939, the division did not see action.

Sources: Memorias de un Soldado. Heinz Guderian. Círculo Militar. Buenos aires.
KTB des Genralkommando XIX AK – Feldzug in Polen.
Geschichte der Panzerregiment 5. Kapitel 3.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... en/3PD.htm
http://www.feldgrau.com/heer3p.html
http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/
Subasta de eBay (finalizada).
PANZER Photo Album - Aufkl. Abt 3 - -Sudetenland, Poland. Auction of Historical media 2007. LLC (now expired). Sábado, 25 de Octubre de 2008.

Cheers. Raúl M 8-).
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