Highest NSDAP Rank Holders: Dienstleiter-Hauptbefehlsleiter

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Re: Highest NSDAP Rank Holders: Dienstleiter-Hauptbefehlslei

Post by Pitino » 15 Oct 2011 21:19

Igor Karpov wrote:"Our numbers have grown!" Heinrich Korth was Hauptdienstleiter der NSDAP, not Oberdienstleiter: he held this rank in July 1942.

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Igor,
-I think that Korth was listed as ODL der NSDAP in (September 1940). So, it is completely possible that he was promoted to HDL der NSDAP sometime before your (July 1942) source. Good work, but what is your source?

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Re: Highest NSDAP Rank Holders: Dienstleiter-Hauptbefehlslei

Post by Igor Karpov » 28 Dec 2011 14:11

Igor Karpov wrote:Push up Alfred Hess: he was Befehlsleiter der NSDAP.
My mistake - he was only Hauptdienstleiter der NSDAP.

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Re: Highest NSDAP Rank Holders: Dienstleiter-Hauptbefehlslei

Post by Pitino » 29 Dec 2011 20:04

-I have found a new Dienstleiter der NSDAP!!!! Previously I had Eugen Hund listed as Oberbereichsleiter der NSDAP with his appointment date coming (sometime in 1942). Well, this can be updated! On (April 10, 1945), GL Wächtler, Bayreuth, und Pg. Zander, Dienststelle Berlin, both received transmissions from Dienstleiter Hund, Parteikanzlei München. So, we now know that Eugen Hund held the rank of Dienstleiter der NSDAP as early as (April 10, 1945). Also, with the war coming to an end within the month it is probable that this is the rank that Hund ended the war with. Does anyone out there know the specific date of his DL der NSDAP ranking? It had to come sometime in between (1942-April 10, 1945).

-("The End: The Defiance and Destruction of Hitler's Germany, 1944-1945", note 59)

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Re: Highest NSDAP Rank Holders: Dienstleiter-Hauptbefehlslei

Post by Halfdan S. » 29 Dec 2011 21:36

I can narrow this a tiny bit: Bormann mentions Eugen Hund with this Rank (Dienstleiter) in a letter to Helmuth Friedrichs on February 21, 1945.

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Re: Highest NSDAP Rank Holders: Dienstleiter-Hauptbefehlslei

Post by Pitino » 31 Dec 2011 05:40

Halfdan S. wrote:I can narrow this a tiny bit: Bormann mentions Eugen Hund with this Rank (Dienstleiter) in a letter to Helmuth Friedrichs on February 21, 1945.

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Halfdan S.,
-Thanks for narrowing Hunds appt date a little! My new list is in the works and will be posted sometime in the near future. Also, "Happy New Year" to all my friends here at the Forum!!!!

-Eugen Hund- (1942-February 21, 1945)- Appt DL der NSDAP somtime during this period

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Re: Highest NSDAP Rank Holders: Dienstleiter-Hauptbefehlslei

Post by Igor Karpov » 08 Jan 2012 08:12

Pitino wrote:-Anyone have anything on Baeumler's Vertreter des Hohen Schule, Dr. Kurt Wagner, holding the Dienstleiter der NSDAP rank??? I think we have him listed as Bereichsleiter der NSDAP somewhere on our Part II list. Can anyone verify his NSDAP rank for us???
It was I, who pointed out about that, possibly mistakenly.

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... r#p1540658

But now I can say one for sure, that as of January 4, 1943 he held the rank of Abschnittsleiter der NSDAP.

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Re: Highest NSDAP Rank Holders: Dienstleiter-Hauptbefehlslei

Post by Igor Karpov » 08 Jan 2012 08:26

Halfdan S. wrote:Interesting with Dr. Fritz Kubach - I had Dr. Hermann Hiltner as Stabsführer (Geschäftsführer) 1935-45, but a bit research gave the result that Dr. Kubach was actually Stabsführer from 1944 until his disappearance in January 1945. Wonder if Dr. Hiltner who was with the Luftwaffe in München was recalled to become Stabsführer once again after Dr. Kubachs disappearance? Do you have more on Dr. Kubachs disappearance?
In 1942 he held tne rank of Oberbereichsleiter der NSDAP. So, Dr. Fritz Kubach in propria persona.

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Re: Reich Hauptdienstleiter

Post by Igor Karpov » 12 Jan 2012 10:21

Pitino wrote:-(Pre 1939)

-[u]Reich Hauptdienstleiter der NSDAP[/u]
-Fritz Reinhardt- (Appointed in Summer 1934)
-Hans Saupert- (Appointed September 1,1934)
-Rudolf Schmeer- (Appointed in 1935)
-Dr. Gerhard Wagner- (Appointed in February 1936)
-Dr. Leonardo Conti- (Appointed April 22,1939)
Why in this list there are no place for Dr. Fritz Todt, who was Hauptdienstleiter der NSDAP (Appointed December 16,1938)?

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Re: Reich Hauptdienstleiter

Post by Pitino » 13 Jan 2012 17:16

Igor Karpov wrote:
Pitino wrote:-(Pre 1939)

-[u]Reich Hauptdienstleiter der NSDAP[/u]
-Fritz Reinhardt- (Appointed in Summer 1934)
-Hans Saupert- (Appointed September 1,1934)
-Rudolf Schmeer- (Appointed in 1935)
-Dr. Gerhard Wagner- (Appointed in February 1936)
-Dr. Leonardo Conti- (Appointed April 22,1939)
Why in this list there are no place for Dr. Fritz Todt, who was Hauptdienstleiter der NSDAP (Appointed December 16,1938)?

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Igor,
-This would be a great find and welcomed addition to the list, but once again what is your source????

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Re: Highest NSDAP Rank Holders: Dienstleiter-Hauptbefehlslei

Post by Mark Costa » 25 Jan 2012 17:51

Igor:

We are still waiting on your source for the promotion of Fritz Todt to Hauptbefehlsleiter. This would indeed be a great find if backed up with a reliable source.

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Re: Highest NSDAP Rank Holders: Dienstleiter-Hauptbefehlslei

Post by Igor Karpov » 26 Jan 2012 08:12

Mark Costa wrote:Igor:

We are still waiting on your source for the promotion of Fritz Todt to Hauptbefehlsleiter. This would indeed be a great find if backed up with a reliable source.

Mark Costa
Mark:

You mean Hauptdienstleiter, right? Nationalsozialistische Partei-Korrespondenz with the same date.

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Re: Highest NSDAP Rank Holders: Dienstleiter-Hauptbefehlslei

Post by Mark Costa » 26 Jan 2012 14:08

Igor:

sorry you are correct I meant Reichshauptdienstleiter. But from what source was the correspondance from? What book is it in? Do you have a scan of document?

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Re: Highest NSDAP Rank Holders: Dienstleiter-Hauptbefehlslei

Post by Igor Karpov » 07 Mar 2012 11:56

Earlier I stated that Dr. iur Kurt Binding was Bereichsleiter der NSDAP. But now I managed to find, that as early as July 1, 1941 he held the rank of Oberdienstleiter der NSDAP.

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Re: Highest NSDAP Rank Holders: Dienstleiter-Hauptbefehlslei

Post by Pitino » 07 Mar 2012 17:41

Igor Karpov wrote:Earlier I stated that Dr. iur Kurt Binding was Bereichsleiter der NSDAP. But now I managed to find, that as early as July 1, 1941 he held the rank of Oberdienstleiter der NSDAP.

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Igor,
-With what NSDAP capacity would Binder have held the Oberdienstleiter der NSDAP rank?

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Re: Highest NSDAP Rank Holders: Dienstleiter-Hauptbefehlslei

Post by Igor Karpov » 08 Mar 2012 09:29

Pitino wrote:Igor,
-With what NSDAP capacity would Binder have held the Oberdienstleiter der NSDAP rank?
Initially he was Deputy for Hans von Helms, and then succeeded him in office as Leiter of Gruppe III-P in der Parteikanzlei (until October 1941; then Dienstleiter der NSDAP and Ministerialrat Dr. Karl Kernert). In 1941-1945 he was Regierungspräsident of Regierungsbezirk Hildesheim, and also held a rank of SS-Oberführer.

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... g#p1510611

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