Helene Bouhler

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Helene Bouhler

Post by madonna » 17 Sep 2009 14:56

My father was a guard at what he called Hermann Görings' Castle. He spoke a lot about the wine ,art, and furnishings, but what I remember most is a story about a women jumping to her death from a high window and my father, Henry clay Phillips,813th TD from North Carolina 1917-1997, observing a young Lieutenent removing from her fingers her diamond rings. This site is the first time I have ever come across a name ( Helene( Majer) Bouhler.) As a young person I viualized her and wondered who she was and what happened to herand her ( I suppose wedding rings.) In Steven Spielbergs' Band of brothers
a reconstruction of the wine cellar and house were shown, but nothing about this event. I would like to see a picture of
Helene. I read on this site she was said to be a very beautiful woman. I recently traveled to France and had my picture taken when my father once stood.

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(from Hermann Goerings home I have 8x10 glossies of the 1936 Olympics)

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Re: Helene Bouhler

Post by Helly Angel » 17 Sep 2009 16:11

Helene 'Heli' Bouhler was friend of Göring and she was with the Reichsmarschall in the detention days (May 7, 1945), she commited suicide by jumping from high window in Fischhorn Castle late May 1945. Maybe Phil Nix have more info about her.

One interesting beginning coul be post the photos of the place.

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Re: Helene Bouhler

Post by madonna » 18 Sep 2009 02:45

I wish I had checked my spelling...Why didn't this computer do it for me? I was so excited to hear some real information about my father's war stories. Phil Nix are you out there. This was a story my father told time and again about the woman jumping from the window at Hermann Goerings castle and her rings being taken ... That and the bronze star medal story resulting from I believe from the battle in the the Foret de Parroy .

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Re: Helene Bouhler

Post by Phil Nix » 21 Sep 2009 10:32

Hi I am here Helene 'Hele' Majer was married to Philipp Bouhler SS Obergruppenführer and Reichsleiter. She was born in Lauingen on the 20th April 1912 and she was known as "schönste Frau der Reciskanzlei" She married Bouhler on the 18 th August 1934 and they had no children
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Re: Helene Bouhler

Post by abacusman » 02 Nov 2009 11:06

Refering back to earlier posts I am interested in finding out about Bouler himself. I do have some evidence that he had a Misstress, a Lucy Ebner who is currently still alive and living in Bruchsal SW Germany. Ebner has a daughter, again who is still alive and married to an Swiss industrialist and speaker. There is a granddaughter who lives in England

According to family legend Bouhler escaped from Goerings castle and lived out the rest of his life in Alsace, just over the boarder from Bruchsal, he died in the mid 1980's.

There were also a lot of papers that Ebner kept on behalf of Bouhler which are now in the hands of the son in law, I have seen a few of these, by chance, but it was only a brief glimpse before they were hidden.

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Re: Helene Bouhler

Post by inkamaria » 02 Nov 2009 13:19

Philipp Bouhler (11 September 1899 – 19 May 1945) was a Nazi German government official, SS-Obergruppenführer, head of the Führer's Chancellery and leader of the euthanasia programme, the so-called Aktion T4.

Bouhler was born in Munich to a retired colonel and spent five years in the Royal Bavarian Cadet Corps. He took part in the First World War and was badly wounded. From 1919 to 1920, he studied philosophy for four semesters and in 1921 became a contributor in the publishing house that put out the Völkischer Beobachter. Already by autumn 1922 he had become second secretary of the NSDAP. After the failed Beerhall Putsch in Munich and the subsequent refounding of the Party in 1925, he became Reich Secretary of the NSDAP. After the seizure of power in 1933, he became Reich Leader and Member of the Reichstag for Westphalia.

One year later, Bouhler became Police Chairman of Munich, and only a month later, he was appointed head of Adolf Hitler's Chancellery, a post specially created on 17 November 1934 that was first and foremost set aside for Party business. In this job, for instance, secret decrees might be prepared, or internal business managed, before being brought before Adolf Hitler. Bouhler was moreover Chairman of the Official Party Inspection Commission for the Protection of National Socialist Literature (Official German title: Der Chef der Kanzlei des Führers und Vorsitzender der Parteiamtlichen Prüfungskommission zum Schutze des NS-Schrifttums), which determined which writings were suitable for Nazi society, and which were not.

Bouhler's post was one of the internal communication points through which Hitler handled correspondence. He took care of letters from ordinary people containing requests for material help, godfatherhood, job procurement, clemency, readmittance to the NSDAP, or birthday wishes for Hitler. Furthermore, he was responsible for Hitler's private correspondence.

Bouhler was also responsible for activities involving the killing of people. He supervised the development and implementation of the Nazi's early euthanasia program in which mentally ill and physically handicapped people were murdered. Various methods of killing were tried out. The first killing station was Schloss Hartheim in Upper Austria. The knowledge gained from the euthanasia program was later applied to the industrialized annihilation of other groups of people, such as Jewish people.

In 1942, Bouhler published the book "Napoleon – Kometenpfad eines Genies" ("Napoleon – A Genius's Cometary Path"), which would become a favorite of Hitler's. He had also published a National Socialist publication Kampf für Deutschland (Fight for Germany) in 1938.

Bouhler and his wife committed suicide on 19 May 1945, just after they were apprehended by American troops and were being transported to Dachau Concentration Camp, which was used as a facility to imprison Nazis after it was liberated by American forces toward the end of the war.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp_Bouhler
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Re: Helene Bouhler

Post by gacocks » 13 Jan 2011 03:28

Does anyone know what type of injury Philipp Bouhler sustained in World War 1? He was in hospital for some time so it must have been a major injury. It has been suggested that under the nom de course "Theodor Fork" he raced motor cars in 1934 but I don't know whether he was permantently incapacitated by his injuries. Theodor Fork raced in the 1934 Mille Miglia - not a race for someone with media issues.

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Re: Helene Bouhler

Post by abacusman » 13 Jan 2011 10:24

It was a leg injury and he walked with a limp for the rest of his life.

Theodor Fork was not Bouhler

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Re: Helene Bouhler

Post by gacocks » 14 Jan 2011 04:56

How come this myth of Fork being Bouhler has been perpetuated? Surely, Theodor Fork's status as a "real" person would show up somewhere in Germany?

Bouhler was interested in competing in motorsport, or perhaps he just did the rally in Italy to get some experience in overseeing the event in Germany later in 1934.

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Re: Helene Bouhler

Post by Helge » 06 Jan 2012 09:56

Helene "Heli" Majer Boulher

Front row, left-right - Heinrich Hoffmann, Gretl Braun, Dr. Theo Morell, Frau Bouhler, Phillip Bouhler, Gerda Bormann, Hitler, Eva Braun, Martin Bormann, Anni Brandt; 2nd row - Christa Schroeder, Freda Kannenberg, Albert Speer, Margarete Speer, Hanni Morell, Frau Schmundt, Ilse Braun, Heinz Lorenz; 3rd row - Ludwig Bahls (SS Aide), Gerda Daranowski, Albert Bormann, Jacob Werlin (managing director of Daimler-Benz), Sofie Stork, Fritz Schönmann, Gen. Rudolf Schmundt (Hitler's Wehrmacht adjutant), Marianne Schönmann, Dr. Karl Brandt, Arthur ("Willi") Kannenberg. (NA RG 242-EB-6-7)

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Re: Helene Bouhler

Post by Helge » 07 Jan 2012 08:59

I know that the photo is double. But it is beautiful here. I beg to apologize in advance Administrator's

We should also mention that the photo of Frau Bouhler appears on page 175 of the book SS Leadership, Vol N.1 by Max Williams

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Re: Helene Bouhler

Post by Helge » 06 Sep 2012 05:53

Carola Frank wife of KH Frank, Helene Bouhler wife of Philipp Bouhler, Karl Schulz - Date: 02.12.1940

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Re: Helene Bouhler

Post by Simonkynaston » 05 Feb 2014 14:40

Hi ...researching the incidents at Fischorn castle...Trying to contact Madonna if you are still out there...wonder if you have any more info from your father...

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