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Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 10 Oct 2009 12:01

Hi all,

I need your help to Id. these french AA guns:


Thanks in advance. Regards Sturm78.
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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by jopaerya » 10 Oct 2009 12:45

Hello Sturm78

The guns on the last photo are "Canon de 75 mm C.A. Mle 1933" also use by the German army as 7.5 cm Flak M. 33 (f)
your first photo with the gun is unknown for me .

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 10 Oct 2009 23:10

Thank you very much for your help, Jopaerya. :D
Have you any other better wartime photo of the Canon de 75 mm C.A. Mle 1933?

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by jopaerya » 11 Oct 2009 19:08

Hello

Here a nice one from Ebay.de

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 12 Oct 2009 10:48

Thank you very much, Jopaerya. You are great!! :D

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by The Edge » 13 Oct 2009 09:10

"French AA gun 2" is not French at all. This is one of first-ever AA guns, namely Krupp 75mm BaK (Balonabwehrkanone) from 1908. First shown to public in 1909 at Frankfurt International Exhibition, along two other Krupp AA (at that time AB - "Anti-Balon") guns, one in 65mm and the other in 105mm.
Two variations of 75mm existed in barrel length (L/28 and L/30), otherwise they were almost identical. Gun shown at exhibition was lorry-mounted, but simple static mount was also available. According to our member Adolpheit, Turkey bought 4 of these guns, with two of them placed in Odrin Fortress, where they been captured by Bulgarians in 1913. (So this is the first AA gun in both Turkish & Bulgarian Service.)

Photo below from Ian V. Hogg's book "Anti-Aircraft Artillery"
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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by The Edge » 13 Oct 2009 09:12

One more photo of Canon de 75 mm C.A. Mle 1933.
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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 13 Oct 2009 09:32

Thank you very much for your informations and images, The Edge!! :D

I do not understand the error in the text of my image-postcard (It is said that is a french AA gun. 8O )

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 26 Oct 2009 13:06

Hi all,

I need your help again. I found this image on Ebay. According to photocaption is said that this weapon is a captured french gun. Can anyone identify it?


Thanks in advance. Regards Sturm78
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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Manuferey » 27 Oct 2009 00:26

It is also a French 75 mm CA Mle 1933, here in German service as 7,5 cm Flak M33 (f) possibly in southern France.

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 28 Oct 2009 12:33

Thanks, Manuferey. Are you sure? I'm not sure :?

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Post by jopaerya » 28 Oct 2009 13:02

Hello

I agree with Emmanuel this is the same gun .

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Sturm78 » 31 Oct 2009 13:36

Hi all,

Well, 75mm CA Mle 1933 therefore.

Here, another 75mm french AA gun (from Ebay). I am not sure about this weapon: 75mm Mle 1917 or Mle 1917-34?
Have anyone any ideas? It also will be welcome some picture of more quality of this gun.

Thanks in advance. Sturm78
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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by jopaerya » 31 Oct 2009 16:35

Hello Sturm78

Your gun on the photo looks to me a "l'auto canon de 75 De Dion Bouton modèle 1913"

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Re: Id french AA guns

Post by Manuferey » 31 Oct 2009 18:04

Jos,

This same picture appears on a page about 75 mm AA French gun that you sent me a while back. The title of the page is "Canons de 75 mm contre aeronefs sur remorque Schneider". According to this page, Sturm78's picture is a Mle 17.

However, I agree with you that it is an "autocanon de 75 De Dion Bouton Mle 1913". On le voit bien en comparant avec la plate-forme arrière sur cette photo d'ebay par ex.:

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