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Re: Swedish artillery

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Post by John T » 04 Jan 2016, 15:06

peeved wrote:AFAIK the helmets are Swedish m21s and the gaiters are also consistent with Swedish use.

Markus
The thing that puzzled me are the coats now I think these are coastal artillery crew.
OR if the AA managed to get the Motor troops Leather jackets.
(Possible as all Field army AA where motorised)
but I can't remember I seen that somewhere else.

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Re: Swedish artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 11 Jan 2016, 14:05

Hi all,

Any idea about the exact model of this twin naval AA gun ?? According to my information Bofors gun...

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Re: Swedish artillery

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Post by John T » 13 Jan 2016, 19:38

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

Any idea about the exact model of this twin naval AA gun ?? According to my information Bofors gun...

Sturm78
Bofors twin 75mm M/28

Since it's a twin this is the exact model.(at least if it's Swedish navy)
And the details I can see are consistent with the model.


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Re: Swedish artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 14 Jan 2016, 15:28

Thank you, John

Do you have any other image ??

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Re: Swedish artillery

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Post by ludvig » 15 Jan 2016, 20:06

Hello Sturm78 ,
There a lot of photos on internet !
please try :

https://digitaltmuseum.se/

and type Fo88777A in field marked SOK , if you get the photo
J have more photo numbers .

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Re: Swedish artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 10 Feb 2016, 10:34

ludvig wrote
There a lot of photos on internet !
please try :

https://digitaltmuseum.se/

and type Fo88777A in field marked SOK , if you get the photo
J have more photo numbers .
Thank you very much for your help, ludvig... :wink: ....and sorry the delay in my answer...

Can somebody identify the exact model of this naval gun ??
According to photocaption an 10.5cm caliber gun....

Image from https://digitaltmuseum.se
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Re: Swedish artillery

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Post by ludvig » 10 Feb 2016, 11:56

Hello Sturm78,
it is an 10,5 cm M/42 from " Mode "

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Re: Swedish artillery

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Post by Knouterer » 10 Feb 2016, 12:16

Sturm78 wrote:
ludvig wrote
Iteresting photos . the Dutch designation is :
Kanon van 8 ld
the gun 1s an 80 mm L /50 . Japanese captured 4 x 10,5 cm and 24 x 8 cm
Dutch AA guns in by KNIL .
Thank you, ludvig. Do you know the Bofors designation for the KNIL 8cm AA guns ?? :?
I think it is a different model of the swedish 7,5cm lvkan M /36
Markus wrote
KNIL 8 cm AA crew in motion at 00:27...01:15:


Thank you for the link,...interesting video

Regards Sturm78
It should be noted that the Dutch tended to round off artillery calibres to whole centimetres. Thus, the "6 veld" was in fact a 57 mm field gun and the "7 veld" a 75 mm field gun (Krupp design).
However, it seems that the "8 luchtdoel" (ld) actually was 80 mm. For what it's worth, I found this on a website on Chinese artillery:

"75mm: Bofors M-1929 anti-aircraft gun. China acquired an unknown quantity of these guns from Bofors during the 1930s, and as well as being used in two versions by Sweden itself (M/29 in 75mm and M/30 in 80mm), they were exported to Argentina (for tests only, apparently), Finland, Greece, Hungary (in 80mm as the 8cm 29M), Iran, the Netherlands East Indies (in 80mm as the kanon van 8 ld) and Siam. These weapons were used alongside the Vickers 75mm guns by Chinese air defense units."
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Re: Swedish artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 10 Feb 2016, 14:39

ludvig wrote
Hello Sturm78,
it is an 10,5 cm M/42 from " Mode "
Thanks, ludvig...
In this link http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNSweden_Main.htm only are mentioned the models 10.5cm Bofors M1936 and M1940 .....

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Re: Swedish artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 14 Feb 2016, 00:28

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this naval gun ??

Image from https://digitaltmuseum.se
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Re: Swedish artillery

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Post by John T » 14 Feb 2016, 01:16

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

Can somebody identify this naval gun ??

Image from https://digitaltmuseum.se
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7,5 cm lvkan M/15-23
Aboard HMS Ymer, Icebreaker.

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Re: Swedish artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 14 Feb 2016, 11:45

John wrote
7,5 cm lvkan M/15-23
Aboard HMS Ymer, Icebreaker.
Thank you very much for your hrlp, John...
I suppose a Bofors design, is not it?

A more question about naval guns. Are these guns 12cm Bofors M1924 ?? :?

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12cm Bofors gun of Hälsingborg destroyer  Fo200080-.jpg
12cm Bofors M1924 gun on destroyer  Fo188188-.jpg
12cm Bofors M1924 gun  Fo199421-.jpg

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Re: Swedish artillery

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Post by John T » 14 Feb 2016, 12:16

Sturm78 wrote:
John wrote
7,5 cm lvkan M/15-23
Aboard HMS Ymer, Icebreaker.
Thank you very much for your hrlp, John...
I suppose a Bofors design, is not it?
Sturm78
Swedish navy's non- Bofors guns after 1900 are easily counted,
IIRC only the Destroyers bought from Italy 1940.
I haven't seen any of the Rheinmetall 20mm onboard a ship.

Sturm78 wrote:
A more question about naval guns. Are these guns 12cm Bofors M1924 ?? :?

Images from https://digitaltmuseum.se
Sturm78
These are published by the Maritime museum and I have very few reasons to question their caption.
And in this case, all pictures depicted "county" destroyers ("Landskapsjagare") and they had no alternative armaments.

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Re: Swedish artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 14 Feb 2016, 15:51

John wrote
These are published by the Maritime museum and I have very few reasons to question their caption.
And in this case, all pictures depicted "county" destroyers ("Landskapsjagare") and they had no alternative armaments.
Thank you for your quick answer, john....I had doubts because the breech of the guns of the second and third images seems different...

On the other hand, in https://digitaltmuseum.se, the photocaption identified this gun as a 76.2mm Bofors M28 model but here http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/AA_GUNS3.htm as a Bofors M27 model.... :?

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Re: Swedish artillery

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Post by John T » 14 Feb 2016, 18:43

Sturm78 wrote:
John wrote
These are published by the Maritime museum and I have very few reasons to question their caption.
And in this case, all pictures depicted "county" destroyers ("Landskapsjagare") and they had no alternative armaments.
Thank you for your quick answer, john....I had doubts because the breech of the guns of the second and third images seems different...
Yes, you are right
The third pic is definitely not M/24
I say 12 cm m/94, if you scroll to pic 199423, it looks like AMC HMS Warun.

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