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Re: Pillau 1944

Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 16 May 2010 18:25

Some photos from Pillau, please note interesting wooden tower on the right side from Flak 41.
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Re: Pillau 1944

Post by jopaerya » 16 May 2010 20:14

Hello

@ - @ndrew nice photo of the flak commandpost with the radar on top .

@ - Frey-Fox do you have more Russian drawings of the flakbatterie ??

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Re: Pillau 1944

Post by FreyFox » 16 May 2010 21:27

Some photos from Pillau, please note interesting wooden tower on the right side from Flak 41.
Are you sure that all photos from Pillau?

First and third photo, I saw that they were designated as a series of photographs of anti-aircraft defense of Konigsberg.

The second picture is a Marine anti-aircraft battery in the Pillau.

Frey-Fox do you have more Russian drawings of the flakbatterie ??
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Re: Pillau 1944

Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 16 May 2010 21:55

Hello,

Yes they were described as Konigsberg as far as i know by Maxim Kolomiets-right? But have you found any Flak batteries around Konigsberg? More logicaly they were placed closer to see - they were offenly bi-functional: anti-aircraft and sea cost. That steel cupola with destroyed radar is from 4x10,5cm battery-even the same soldiers is on both of the photos.
I suppose that photos published by Kolomiets of 12,8 Flak are also from Pillau.

This is a list of sea cost/flak batteries based on memoirs of German soldiers from Festung Pillau in 1945. Sorry only written locations witout pin-points on the map. But it's good for You to tracethem in terrain:


Festung Pillau 1945

Seezielbatterie NO Lochstadt (Haffufer) alte 8,8cm Uboot Kanonen
Seezielbatterie Plantage 1km N. Zitadelle 3x15cm
Seezielbatterie Neutief W. Neutief 124Mann 220 Flakhelfer 4x15cm

Marine Flak Batterie St.Adalbertskreuz 4x12,8cm
Marine Flak Batterie Neuhauser W.Reichstrasse 131 hinter Neuhauser Riegel 4x12,8
Marine Flak Batterie Kaddig (zugl. Reserve Gef-Std Seekommandant) 4x12,5cm

Marine Flak Batterie Schanze Ostseedune W. MFlB Neuhauser (Vorher S.Flak Bttr. Peyse) 4x10,5cm
Marine Flak Batterie Kamstigall SW Rand Kamsigall-Horn 4x10,5cm
Marine Flak Batterie Haken 4km O. Kamstigal,Kamstigal Haken am Haff 4x10,5cm
Marine Flak Batterie Nordmole am Plantage N. Zitadelle 4x10,5cm
Marine Flak Batterie Lehmberg (zugl. Reserve Kdo Std Flak GrKdo) 4x10,5cm

Pak Bttr von Mowenhaken 4x7,5 oder 8,5cm

http://amzpbig.com/maps/1385_Pillau_1936.jpg good map of Pillau
more there:
http://mapy.amzp.pl/tk25_list.cgi?show=all;sort=g

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Re: Pillau 1944

Post by FreyFox » 16 May 2010 23:08

Some photos from Pillau, please note interesting wooden tower on the right side from Flak 41.
Here is a photo from the same series.
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good map of Pillau
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Pillau - 1945

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Two photos, destroyed the German positions, the district Pillau.
These photos are on my already somewhere, but I repeat again.

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Re: Pillau 1944

Post by 20P7 » 19 May 2010 22:11

Hello all,

Andrews mail of the 15th of may shows a Fla 32.

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Re: Pillau 1944

Post by TH » 03 Aug 2010 15:42

Hey, I'm doing a little research for someone who wants to visits the place were his grandfather died.
Which battery had the designation 3./M.A.A. 533?
Was it 3x 15 cm Seeplantage?

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Re: Pillau 1944

Post by jopaerya » 03 Aug 2010 16:13

Hi Torsten

I don't have the M.A.A. 3./533 , but I know what it's not 1./533 Seeplantage and 2./533 Neutief
my best quess is that it was M.K.B. Hirschweise with 15 cm S.K.C/28 .

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Re: Pillau 1944

Post by SES » 03 Aug 2010 16:56

@ndrew wrote:Some photos from Pillau, please note interesting wooden tower on the right side from Flak 41.
Hi Pillau 1 depicts a radar of the type Flakleit g, a type not seen very often, I have only seen it in KM 10,5 cm batteries.
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Re: Pillau 1944

Post by TH » 03 Aug 2010 17:15

jopaerya wrote:I don't have the M.A.A. 3./533 , but I know what it's not 1./533 Seeplantage and 2./533 Neutief
my best quess is that it was M.K.B. Hirschweise with 15 cm S.K.C/28 .
Thanks, I thought of Seeplantage because he said the battery had three 15 cm guns.
Is Hirschweise (or Hirschwiese?) the 15 cm battery south of Pillau (4-15** on the map on the first page)?

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Re: Pillau 1944

Post by jopaerya » 03 Aug 2010 18:03

Hello Torsten

That should be M.K.B. Neutief , I will search further for new information .

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Re: Pillau 1944

Post by jopaerya » 03 Aug 2010 18:53

Hello

I found the 3./533 , it's called Kirschweise .

3./533: Battr. Kirschwiese
Bewaffnung: 4-15 cm S.K.C/28
Batteriechef:
22.01.1945 – 25.04.1945 Oblt.(MA)d.R. Hellmuth Besch

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Re: Pillau 1944

Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 25 Oct 2010 03:41

Hello Everybody,

below is a link to very interesting photos schowing attack on Pillau port and ships:
http://tsushima.su/forums/viewtopic.php ... &viewall=1
enjoy :milsmile:


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Re: Pillau 1944

Post by AvB » 25 Oct 2010 10:44

Very good info thanks!

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Re: Pillau 1944

Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 06 Jan 2011 00:27

jopaerya wrote:Hello All
I have a drawing of a early design , it's not the same but it looks like this one .
Regards Jos
Jos' drawing shows bunker 'Werk fur 1 Ferngeschutz (K3F) mit indirekter Bedienung'
K3F-what gun is it??? It's fortress version of well known heavy K3 gun?
This mounting of the gun-hmm looks lik early kind of something like Sockellafette?...

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