Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

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Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

Postby projectgreywolf » 19 Jun 2010 14:01

I'm looking for information on a Luftwaffe Pilot (Fltt Lt?_ Arthur Friederich Angellotte-mackensen. Last know flying JU52's out of Berlin late in April 1945.

Also on Flt Kpt Peter Erich Baumgart Awarded Knight’s cross 31/7/1943 and also allegedly with 128 kills over crete, Italy, North Africa and in the East.
Again possibly flying Ju52 out of Berlin late in April 1945 from Hohenzollerndamm.
Does anyone have any idea if this part of Berlin had a Luftwaffe airfield, even a temporary one in April 1945?

Thanks very much

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Re: Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

Postby Larry D. » 19 Jun 2010 17:35

projectgreywolf wrote:I'm looking for information on a Luftwaffe Pilot (Fltt Lt?_ Arthur Friederich Angellotte-mackensen. Last know flying JU52's out of Berlin late in April 1945.

Also on Flt Kpt Peter Erich Baumgart Awarded Knight’s cross 31/7/1943 and also allegedly with 128 kills over crete, Italy, North Africa and in the East.

I checked two Luftwaffe officer lists for these names, one with 31,000 officers and the other with about 6,000 air crew personnel. Neither name appears. Your use of non-German ranks with both names makes them both very suspect. However, there is an Erich Baumgartl listed as a Ritterkreuzträger on this site: http://www.ww2awards.com/ . Unfortunately, Baumgartl was KIA over France on 12 July 1944. Since virtually all Ritterkreuzträger are well known, your Peter Erich Baumgart is really, really suspect!

Again possibly flying Ju52 out of Berlin late in April 1945 from Hohenzollerndamm.
Does anyone have any idea if this part of Berlin had a Luftwaffe airfield, even a temporary one in April 1945?

Hohenzollerndamm is the name of a wide boulevard in the Wilmersdorf section of southwest Berlin. The nearest wartime airfields were Berlin-Gatow, about 7.5 km WSW of the Boulevard, and Berlin-Tempelhof, about 5 km east of the Boulevard. But both of these airfields could no longer be used after about 22 April as they were under direct Soviet artillery fire and hourly attacks by Soviet fighters and ground attack aircraft. The Germans then began using Berlin's wide boulevards for courier, liaison and med-evac flights, of which there were only a few with these usually being flown at night. You need to get a book on Berlin's final days, of which there are a good half-dozen or so in English.

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Re: Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

Postby projectgreywolf » 13 Jul 2010 15:26

Larry d, thank you for your help. My sources were incorrect and further research showed the Ltnt to be Waffen SS infantry possible.
However, I'm still searching....

for information on an Hauptmann (Captain) Erich Peter Baumgart, allegedly a Luftwaffe pilot with 128 kills over Crete, Italy, North Africa and the Eastern front . Also an Iron Cross Holder.
Appears to have also held SS rank .
Born in south Africa in 1915 , arrived in Germany 1935.
Possibly flying with KG 200 in April 1945

Sentenced in Warsaw in 1948 to five years imprisonment for being a member of the SS.
Any information would be very helpful.

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Re: Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

Postby Larry D. » 13 Jul 2010 15:59

The site below lists them all from all branches of the Wehrmacht. It's complete. There are no "unknowns" running around out there that escaped identification. All of the Ritterkreuz award documentation was carefully preserved - none was destroyed. You can go to BA-MA Freiburg im Breisgau and inspect it yourself.

http://www.das-ritterkreuz.de/index_the ... leihung_rk

Here is another site listing all who received the higher awards of the Third Reich:

http://www.ww2awards.com/

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Re: Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

Postby Halfdan S. » 14 Jul 2010 18:54

There was a one last operation bringing personel out of Berlin on April 23rd, 1945 - there were ten planes that left Berlin from four different airfields. Haven't got the names of the airfields present at the moment, but you'll be able to find them in James O'Donnells book called something like "The Bunker" or simular.

Found this thread by the way - viewtopic.php?f=49&t=49080&start=15 - it might have some of the info you're looking for ...

Best
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Re: Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

Postby kaki3152 » 15 Jul 2010 06:27

Found this on the Web. Its from an Australian newspaper,The Canberra Times Feb 9,1949.

"Luftwaffe Pilot Sent to Gaol For Five Years
! WARSAW, Tuesday.
Captain Peter Baumgart, a former Luftwaffe pilot, was sentenced to five years for being a member of the S.S., a crime which is punishable by death. |
He told the tribunal that hei was bom 'in 'South Africa but in 1935 he renounced British citizen-1 ship. He was the holder of thei Iron Cross and other decora- tions. Baumgart said that just before « the fall of Berlin he flew Hitler and Eva Braun to Den-
mark, where they joined a submarine. The plane made a forced landing at Magdeburg,- but, upon I Hitler's insistence, he flew the [following day through ,an artil- lery barrage to the Danish shore. Hitler'shook hands with' him and gave him a cheque for 20,000 marks. ' ' ' *
One" of the judges reminded Baumgart thaï '-Allied 'Intelligence reports showed that Hitler and Eva Braun killed themselves on May 3, 1945, but Baumgart stuck lo his story, adding that, Hitler was not- the kind of man to take his own life. '

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Re: Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

Postby projectgreywolf » 15 Jul 2010 09:08

Yes, thanks, that's the officer in question. I need to know anything about him, service record or post-war history.
Thanks

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Re: Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

Postby Larry D. » 15 Jul 2010 12:41

According to L.Dv. Nr. 2010/1 (OKL/3249a), Dienstaltersliste der Offiziere der deutschen Luftwaffen nach dem Stande vom 1. August 1944, bearbeitet im Luftwaffenpersonalamt, there were no officers on flying status (A 1) by the name of Peter Baumgart in the Luftwaffe on this date. The assumption then is that he was not an officer but rather an enlisted pilot. That assumption rests upon his story being true, and that's a long reach, indeed, since his newspaper account is one big lie. If he was an enlisted pilot, of which there were a great many in the Luftwaffe, then you will not find any personnel records on him as the Luftwaffe enlisted records did not survive the war. However, BA-MA Freiburg has extensive Karteikarten (card indexes) on all Luftwaffe air crew personnel and might be enticed to provide a copy if they have one on Baumgart. The card would provide his DOB, POB, promotions, a history of his training and the units he was assigned to, and any decorations awarded. You would not find any personal information or pre-enlistment information.
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Re: Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

Postby projectgreywolf » 15 Jul 2010 14:54

Thanks Larry, you've been immensely helpful. I've Just been doing some research on Myths of WW2. It's strange that he was convicted of being in the SS and sentenced to five years in prison for it.

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Re: Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

Postby Larry D. » 15 Jul 2010 15:46

Always a pleasure to help those who remember to say "thanks". I am pleased that my modest contribution was of some assistance.

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Re: Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

Postby stellung » 16 Jul 2010 04:21

The SS was attempting to establish its own branch of the Luftwaffe. At the end of the war, most records were destroyed. I have seen a late-war photo of a flak crew burning their records. Good research begins by following leads, not dismissing them out of hand. For example, there are still those that are surprised to learn that the Germans operated helicopters during the war. I have seen a new photo of a helicopter with a carrying cable waiting to lift a Bf-109 from a field.

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Re: Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

Postby TEN » 20 Jul 2010 18:16

What proof do you have that the SS tried to establish their own branch of the Lufteaffe ?

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Re: Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

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Re: Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

Postby TEN » 20 Jul 2010 20:51

That is not quite the same as trying to establish its own branch of the Luftwaffe. They did not have enough acces to the Verbindungsflüge from the Luftwaffe and tried to set up their own courier service.

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Re: Pilot information and Berlin Airfield April 1945

Postby projectgreywolf » 20 Jul 2010 21:49

senior officers at KG 200 held SS rank. Doesn't prove anything, but it's true


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