Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

Post by carius » 14 Dec 2022 15:38

gebhk wrote:
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Hi Carius

Any idea where the photo in your post 796 was taken?
France,but unfortunately I don't know the exact destination :(
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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

Post by gebhk » 14 Dec 2022 16:48

Hi Carius

Oops, sorry, a typo has crept in. I meant 756... :oops:

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

Post by Sturm78 » 01 Jan 2023 23:10

Hi all,

An image from Ebay: material of a Brückengerät B column

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

Post by Sturm78 » 03 Jan 2023 22:43

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this pontoon trailer ?
According to Ebay photo caption, Balkans, 1941

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

Post by carius » 04 Jan 2023 04:34

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

Post by gebhk » 04 Jan 2023 18:24

Hi Sturm

For what it's worth the boats seem to be, well, boats rather than pontoons - though the practical significance of this is probably limited. Also for what it's worth the wagons (they are wagons rather than trailers) look very much like Birago or Birago-derived bridging wagons - specifically beam (aka joist) wagons. The bovine traction is a nicely exotic touch.

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

Post by Sturm78 » 11 Jan 2023 22:57

Thank you, gebhk

About the images posted by George on 04 Jan, Is it Austrian M36 pontoon equipment ?
I think the pontoons seems match but not the rest of the construction material..... :? The images are dated in 1934 so it is possible that it is another previous model.....

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

Post by gebhk » 12 Jan 2023 15:01

Hi Sturm

The gist of it is that Birago gear and/or its derivatives were used by virtually everybody all over the world. After WW1 vast stocks of it ended up in a great many armies. In Poland it would not have been perhaps the first choice, but having inherited huge stocks of serviceable gear, a poor army like the Polish one could not ignore them. So they were pressed into service, albeit bits and bobs were modernised progressively (for example the wooden load-bearing beams were replaced with lighter and more robust RSJs) and missing/worn-out elements (such as wagons) were replaced, sometimes with locally-designed and often different gear. This undoubtedly went on in many if not most armies in Central Europe and ended up in Axis hands either by alliance or capture. Consequently it takes a real expert (aka a dedicated rivet-counter :wink: ) to differentiate between the different versions. And, alas, few rivet counters get excited by engineering equipment...... :(

That was one of the reasons I was hounding poor George about photo 756. Circa 1936 the Sapper Department in Poland concluded there was much to be gained from replacing wooden wheels with pneumatic ones on the bridging column wagons. Photos are rare as hen's teeth and I have never seen an original wagon thus upgraded. The wheels look like Polski Fiat wheels to me and the wagon could be a Birago job, so......

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

Post by SIS 5 » 16 Jan 2023 16:57

Hi Sturm78, hi gebhk,

thank You for our comments, gebhk. Very interesting!

to #804: the pontoon on that pic could be of Dutch origin like on the pic, used even before WW I.

to #805: that´s not the Austrian M36 pontoon equipment. These pontoons were already used during WW I.

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Re: Pontoon Bridges and assault boats

Post by Sturm78 » 17 Jan 2023 23:43

Thank you, Bert

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