7.62cm PaK 36(r)

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7.62cm PaK 36(r)

Post by Sturm78 » 23 Sep 2010 13:42

Hi all,

Some images of 76.2mm M1936 Russian field guns modified by the germans for AT role: 7.62cm PaK 36(r)

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 23 Sep 2010 14:11

The gun looked very low to me until I realised that they'd dug holes for the wheels !
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Re: 7.62cm PaK 36(r)

Post by jopaerya » 23 Sep 2010 14:24

Hello Sturm78

Nice gun and dito picture's .

All picture's from Ebay

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Post by jopaerya » 23 Sep 2010 14:25

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Re: 7.62cm PaK 36(r)

Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 23 Sep 2010 14:34

Hello,

7.62 cm Pak 36 R.jpg
where could be this gun placed: Atlantikwall or Ostsee?
And the beach obstacles in the background-interesting :)

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Re: 7.62cm PaK 36(r)

Post by Manuferey » 24 Sep 2010 02:06

Gentlemen,

There was a discussion here about 7,62 cm Pak 36 and 39:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=143147

The consensus was that the Germans did not use the “(r)” in the designation as the guns had been modified from the original Russian models. It is the same with the 7,5 cm Pak 97/38 with no (f). :wink:

Here is a copy of a German document (from ebay.de) showing the designation without the “(r)”.

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Re: 7.62cm PaK 36(r)

Post by Sturm78 » 07 Jan 2011 10:04

Hi all,

7.62cm Pak 36 ??? :?

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Re: 7.62cm PaK 36

Post by Manuferey » 07 Jan 2011 23:47

Yes, 7.62 cm Pak 36.

Here is another picture from ebay of these 2 guns. One of the 2 pictures has been inverted (unless the guns were moved in between).

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Re: 7.62cm PaK 36(r)

Post by Clive Mortimore » 08 Jan 2011 17:16

Hi Emmanuel and Strum

I think Emmanuel is correct about Strum's image being inverted. The shield of a 3.7 cm Pak was higher on the layers side, left hand side. In photo Strum found on E-bay the raised part of the shield is on the right hand side of the gun.

I do wish people scan photos the right way round on E-bay. I saw an old post on another forum where there was an disagreement if a British carrier was a scout or a bren carrier.....no body had noticed the sign writting on the shop behind was back to front so how the hell could they tell what the vehicle was :) :)
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Re: 7.62cm PaK 36(r)

Post by David W » 09 Jan 2011 02:03

Anyone else got any photos of these beauties in North Africa?

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Re: 7.62cm PaK 36(r)

Post by Graham Clayton » 09 Jan 2011 02:32

The 7.62cm Pak36(r) was nicknamed "Ratschbumm", or "crash-boom", due to the sound of its firing and almost instant impact, due to the high velocity of the weapon.

An excellent example of this was during the British "Operation Slendour" at El Alamein on the 21st and 22nd of July.
The two guns in PZGrenadier Regiment 104's anti-tank platoon destroyed 9 and disabled 6 Valentine tanks of the 40th Royal Tank Regiment on Ruweisat Ridge in the space of a few minutes.
"Air superiority is a condition for all operations, at sea, in land, and in the air." - Air Marshal Arthur Tedder.

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Re: 7.62cm PaK 36(r)

Post by Amilcar » 10 Jan 2011 12:58

Clive Mortimore wrote:Hi Emmanuel and Strum

I think Emmanuel is correct about Strum's image being inverted. The shield of a 3.7 cm Pak was higher on the layers side, left hand side. In photo Strum found on E-bay the raised part of the shield is on the right hand side of the gun.

I do wish people scan photos the right way round on E-bay. I saw an old post on another forum where there was an disagreement if a British carrier was a scout or a bren carrier.....no body had noticed the sign writting on the shop behind was back to front so how the hell could they tell what the vehicle was :) :)

I don't think the image is inverted. Look at the tree in relation to the guns.

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Re: 7.62cm PaK 36(r)

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 10 Jan 2011 19:50

David W wrote:Anyone else got any photos of these beauties in North Africa?
David, There is a thread on these guns on the DAK forum as it happens.
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Re: 7.62cm PaK 36(r)

Post by Manuferey » 12 Jan 2011 00:24

Amilcar wrote: I don't think the image is inverted. Look at the tree in relation to the guns.
Amilcar,

Here the inverted picture that now shows the same position of the 2 guns relative to the tree in the background:

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Re: 7.62cm PaK 36(r)

Post by peeved » 30 Jan 2011 22:13

From eBay.de.

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