very strange submachinegun: late WW2 prototype?

Discussions on the small arms used by the Axis forces.
bluered12
Member
Posts: 69
Joined: 15 Dec 2002, 19:22
Location: Germany

very strange submachinegun: late WW2 prototype?

#1

Post by bluered12 » 01 Mar 2003, 16:10

The gun likes like a marriage between a MP43 and a MP40:
http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/ga ... 00/359.htm

Has anyone ever seen this smg before?

User avatar
Juha Tompuri
Forum Staff
Posts: 11562
Joined: 11 Sep 2002, 21:02
Location: Mylsä

#2

Post by Juha Tompuri » 01 Mar 2003, 16:15

Haven´t seen before, but a neat thing.

Regards, Juha


User avatar
Korbius
Member
Posts: 1795
Joined: 01 Oct 2002, 00:53
Location: DC

#3

Post by Korbius » 01 Mar 2003, 17:37

It looks very similar to the AK family.

User avatar
Daniel L
Member
Posts: 9122
Joined: 07 Sep 2002, 01:46
Location: Sweden

#4

Post by Daniel L » 01 Mar 2003, 17:43

I can't see it.

Best regards/ Daniel

User avatar
Christian Ankerstjerne
Forum Staff
Posts: 14028
Joined: 10 Mar 2002, 15:07
Location: Denmark
Contact:

#5

Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 01 Mar 2003, 18:01

You need to have Java enabled, since the entire image has been made as a Javascript! (these guys are paranoid...)

Christian

User avatar
Redbaron1908
Member
Posts: 2023
Joined: 31 Dec 2002, 18:52
Location: Texas

#6

Post by Redbaron1908 » 01 Mar 2003, 18:04

the gun looks were modern though i never seen it before

User avatar
Xnomad
Member
Posts: 39
Joined: 30 Jan 2003, 00:55
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

#7

Post by Xnomad » 02 Mar 2003, 00:24

I have java enabled and still can't see it, anyone else having trouble?

User avatar
Xnomad
Member
Posts: 39
Joined: 30 Jan 2003, 00:55
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

#8

Post by Xnomad » 02 Mar 2003, 00:32

Got it to work on my other machine so I'll have to figure what's wrong on this one.

Why is it labled SMG? When it's chambered for the 7.92 x 33 Kurz round surely it's an assault carbine or was it the German designation before the word Sturmgewehr was used?

User avatar
T.R.Searle
Member
Posts: 1027
Joined: 28 May 2002, 00:31
Location: Canada

#9

Post by T.R.Searle » 02 Mar 2003, 00:32

I wonder if it ever had anything to do with the modern HK53 series... http://www.hkpro.com/hk53.htm

T.R.Searle :)

aardvark
Member
Posts: 116
Joined: 03 Jun 2002, 02:17
Location: Waco, TX

That gun

#10

Post by aardvark » 02 Mar 2003, 01:00

:D That gun is up for Auction in the US.It is listed as a gun brought back by a GI at the end of WW II. The seller clames that it is a one of a kind German prototype. The seller clames that it is unknow since the vet who brought it back didn't show it to anyone. It is a very interesting gun and if it is real it will sell for a very good price.

varjag
Member
Posts: 4431
Joined: 01 May 2002, 02:44
Location: Australia

Unknown SMG?

#11

Post by varjag » 02 Mar 2003, 14:07

A totally unknown SMG? One that the gun-writers and researchers have missed for six decades? And brought back by a GI who was too shy to EVER show it to anyone?
Come on fellas, pull the other one. America - the Land of Unknown Guns. But of well-known gun-shysters! This is a fake.

User avatar
Fred
Member
Posts: 335
Joined: 10 Mar 2002, 14:13
Location: Sweden

#12

Post by Fred » 02 Mar 2003, 16:02

I can't see it.
Me too :cry:

aardvark
Member
Posts: 116
Joined: 03 Jun 2002, 02:17
Location: Waco, TX

That gun

#13

Post by aardvark » 02 Mar 2003, 17:28

:roll: The seller calls the gun a Sturmgewher 45. For a late war prototype it has a very good finish and looks to have some MP40 parts in it. The reluctance of the GI to show it may have to do with the fact that it was forbiden to bring such[full auto] weapons back. The GI supposedly registered it later with the ATF{a class 3 firearm,which makes it legal to buy by another class 3 holder}.As for it being real or fake I don't know,it look a little too well finished for a late war prototype.It also look a little like a Yugo m56[a MP40 mutant]. It is always possiable that it is real . By the way Var I remenber that some Aussie was trying to sell " Hitler's Pistol " a few years ago,that was a fake , so there are gun shysters everywhere.
Last edited by aardvark on 02 Mar 2003, 17:58, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Marcus
Member
Posts: 33963
Joined: 08 Mar 2002, 23:35
Location: Europe
Contact:

#14

Post by Marcus » 02 Mar 2003, 17:35

Here it is for those of you who can't see it:
Attachments
javaphoto.jpg
javaphoto.jpg (9.29 KiB) Viewed 3639 times

User avatar
Daniel L
Member
Posts: 9122
Joined: 07 Sep 2002, 01:46
Location: Sweden

#15

Post by Daniel L » 02 Mar 2003, 17:48

Thanks Marcus! I think it looks suspicious.

Best regards/ Daniel

Post Reply

Return to “Small Arms”