Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 11 Feb 2012, 18:57

Hello Ludvig,
Thank you very much, just minutes ago I make correction you talk about .
Now because is Saturday I post another two variants ...
... Barrels ?
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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 11 Feb 2012, 19:47

Hello Ludvig,
Please tell me if ,for mounting old ZM-37 the lateral protection-shield was cutted at all guns , in ordeer to obtain an
easy angle for setting fuse .
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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 12 Feb 2012, 19:37

Hello everybody ,
To day , a variant of 10,5 cm S.K. C/32 n.S. on 10,5 cm M.P.L. C/32 g.E. without any shield-protection .
Comments or observations, please ...
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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by ludvig » 14 Feb 2012, 17:03

Hello Vladalex,
a) 11 Feb 2012 17:57
Two drawings , but the same version of the 10,5 cm S.K. C/32 n. S.
" deck - shield welded . load system manual " The 10,5 cm S.K.C/32 n. S.
have the Ladevorrictung as standard = semiautomatic breech gear / device
attached to left side , you can see it clearly on your drawings .
b) 11 Feb 2012 18:47
" old ZM - 37 cut on all guns " sorry have no more information on that topic - -
c) 12 Feb 2012 2012 18:37
Really impressive drawing of an " open " 10,5 cm S.K.C/32 n. S. !!!
d) Do you have any information on 105 mm guns at S.M.R. " Regele Carol I "
and S.M.R. " Dacia " ???
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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 14 Feb 2012, 23:06

Hello Ludvig,
Thank you for observations, I made correction at drawings .

" d) Do you have any information on 105 mm guns at S.M.R. " Regele Carol I "
and S.M.R. " Dacia " ???
Regards
ludvig "


In order to response at your request I wil study this question ...
If you like my last drawing , please study this recent post .

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 16 Feb 2012, 14:30

ludvig wrote:Hello Vladalex,

d) Do you have any information on 105 mm guns at S.M.R. " Regele Carol I "
and S.M.R. " Dacia " ???
Regards
ludvig
I do not know if will be usefull for you , but I try ...

http://www.marinarii.ro/nave.php?id=8

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 17 Feb 2012, 18:44

ludvig wrote:Hello Vladalex,

" old ZM - 37 cut on all guns " sorry have no more information on that topic - -

Regards
ludvig
... any possible usefull links ?

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 26 Feb 2012, 15:35

ludvig wrote:Hello Vladalex ,
Back to your post dated 03 Jan 2012 20:20
To many combinations - -
The 10,5 cm S.K.C/32 system have ....... but only
5 x mounts / carriages :
1) 10,5 cm M.P.L. C/32 with - 10 + 50 elevation
3 x cylinders above the gun barrel
four sided shield house open at back

2) 10,5 cm M.P.L.C/ 32 g. E. with - 10 + 70 elevation
one cylinder above the gun barrel + two under
four sided shield house open at back or only front armour

3) 8,8 cm M.P.L. C / 30 with - 9 + 80 ( 79 ) elevation
3 x cylinders above the gun barrel
- open mount
- four sided gun shield house open at back
- Schildkrörten - shield , fully enclosed shield cover the whole gun pit

4) Ubts LC / 32 with - 10 +35 elevation
3x cylinders under gun barrel
open mount

5) Ubts LC /32 with - 10 + 30 elevation
3 x cylinders under the gun barrel
open mount , but could have four sided shield house open at back

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ludvig
Hello for everybody ,
I think that with this last drawing I covered the mounts / carriages that Ludvig told me about .
I do not make drawing to "Schildkrörten" because this VW shape is not so interesting for me .
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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 28 Feb 2012, 16:13

napy wrote:Hello to eveybody, this is a gun onboard TA 32, wich type of 10,5 gun is it?

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Marco Ghiglino
Hello Marco,
Can you tell me in what year TA32 was rearmed by Kriegsmarine with this guns ?
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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by Sturm78 » 28 May 2012, 11:05

Hi all,

I think 10.5cm SK C32 n.L. gun on SK C32 g.E. mount/shield

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 28 May 2012, 14:14

Hello Sturm78,
You think well , but in your "clasic" pictures posted is :

10,5 cm S.K. C/32nS in 10,5 cm M.P.L. C/32gE with turret build in 1937 .

Very interesting is the man that stay in front of the turret . I post a pictures from A.C.-book to see it.
It looks to be the same "protocol man"

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by napy » 31 May 2012, 23:51

Hello VladAlex,
sorry for the late answer, Premuda was rearmed with 105 in 1943-44. She was catured by germans in sept 1943 during a refit period (was scheduled to embark italian 135 mm single mounting gun) and rearmed with 105 guns, she entrered in service back in 1944.

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Marco Ghiglino



vladalex wrote:
napy wrote:Hello to eveybody, this is a gun onboard TA 32, wich type of 10,5 gun is it?

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Best Regards

Marco Ghiglino
Hello Marco,
Can you tell me in what year TA32 was rearmed by Kriegsmarine with this guns ?
Best Regards,
VladAlex .

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 01 Jun 2012, 13:55

Hello Marco ,
Thank you for your response .
Is much better a latter response than nothing .
Your picture is unique .
I can not remember no one on this forum, to post a picture,
in which to saw this kind of subject about 10,5 cm S.K. C/32n.S.
in 10,5 cm M.P.L C/32g.E.
I make a little sketch , to explain what talking about .
In Kriegsmarine the fuse-setter (Zünderstell-Machine) in general,
was mounted by case, on lafette or on the lateral wall of the turret
on an reinforced plate, welded or screw-mounted .(You
can see this in many pictures from books or from this forum ).
In your picture, the fuse-setter (A) was "split" in two pieces (B) and (C),
which was mounted separately on different location on Premuda's forward turret .
Part (B), with vertical setting angle and vertical angle received from fire director centre,
was mounted on the height of sailor's eyes, with possibility of turning around an axle for
better view , and part (C) normal, like on anothers german small ships .
No other picture show me this kind of mounting .
Thank you again .
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VladAlex .
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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 19 Mar 2013, 19:48

Hello for all,
Please tell me what represent devices marked in red from the drawings posted.
Source: Miroslaw Skwiot, German Naval Guns 1939-45, Naval Institue Press, 2010, page 195.

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 19 Mar 2013, 19:49

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