[Split from "Herms Niel"]
Two more songs have been identified as Niel's here http://www.tomahawkfilms.com/herms.htm (which was then copied on Wikipedia), but they are NOT his: the author of "Marsch der Gebirgsjäger" is Karl-Heinz Räntzsch and the author of "Fallschirmjägerlied" is Friedrich Schäfer. Niel only recorded these two songs (he recorded many songs by various authors), but never composed them.
Cheers,
Ivan
Tomahawk Films
Hi Ivan,
With reference to the Herms Niel CD available on the Tomahawk Films label...I suppose the producers should have noted which songs were written by Niel and which ones were recorded by him...the two songs you listed: "Marsch der Gebirgsjäger" and "Fallschirmjägerlied", were recorded by the 'Reichsmusikzug des Reichsarbeitsdienstes mit Soldatenchor' led by Herms Niel. Do you have the book - 'Collecting Third Reich Recordings' by Stuart C. McKenzie ? (excellent resource book!) Look at page 64.... you will see examples of the 'Grammophon' record label....and two of them show the songs listed....
Regards.
With reference to the Herms Niel CD available on the Tomahawk Films label...I suppose the producers should have noted which songs were written by Niel and which ones were recorded by him...the two songs you listed: "Marsch der Gebirgsjäger" and "Fallschirmjägerlied", were recorded by the 'Reichsmusikzug des Reichsarbeitsdienstes mit Soldatenchor' led by Herms Niel. Do you have the book - 'Collecting Third Reich Recordings' by Stuart C. McKenzie ? (excellent resource book!) Look at page 64.... you will see examples of the 'Grammophon' record label....and two of them show the songs listed....
Regards.
The CD title is "Musik von Herms Niel und dem Chor und Reichsmusikzug des RAD" - and not only that not all songs are his, but also not all were performed by the RAD band, but by, for example, Musikkorps der Fliegerhorst-Kommandantur Berlin-Gatow, and some civilian bands as well.Claymore wrote:With reference to the Herms Niel CD available on the Tomahawk Films label...I suppose the producers should have noted which songs were written by Niel and which ones were recorded by him...
Cheers,
Ivan
Good Sonntag,
I just now received a copy of "Collecting Third Reich Recordings" by Stuart McKenzie. On page 117 there is a caption under a photo of an album that says "Tschingta, Tschingta, Bummtara, recorded in the 1970's and conducted by the famous Herms Niel." Then on the previous page it gives the sense that Herms Niel rounded up some former RAD band members to record the album around 1970.
The only biographical information I can find on Herms Niel states he died in 1954 in Berlin.
If indeed he survived until the 1970's, he would have been a minimum of 82 years old. Possibly he had recorded the material earlier in the 50's and the LP wasn't publised until 1970?
Does anyone know about this album? Also I am having alot of trouble finding photos of him on the net. Does anyone have any to share? Also does anyone know whether there are any books available that cover the RAD band or Herr Niel?
Dave
I just now received a copy of "Collecting Third Reich Recordings" by Stuart McKenzie. On page 117 there is a caption under a photo of an album that says "Tschingta, Tschingta, Bummtara, recorded in the 1970's and conducted by the famous Herms Niel." Then on the previous page it gives the sense that Herms Niel rounded up some former RAD band members to record the album around 1970.
The only biographical information I can find on Herms Niel states he died in 1954 in Berlin.
If indeed he survived until the 1970's, he would have been a minimum of 82 years old. Possibly he had recorded the material earlier in the 50's and the LP wasn't publised until 1970?
Does anyone know about this album? Also I am having alot of trouble finding photos of him on the net. Does anyone have any to share? Also does anyone know whether there are any books available that cover the RAD band or Herr Niel?
Dave
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brunojohn333
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Ref: Tomahawk Films and our Herms Niel CD...
It has recently been brought to our attention that several 'clever dicks' out there have previously posted information on this Axis Forum stating that our Herms Niel CD contains musik tracks performed by the Luftwaffe!!
Can I make it absolutely clear to these 'self-styled experts', (who did not do me the small courtesy of contacting me to discuss my work before posting their ignorant, smug, ill-informed and plain erroneous posts), that as Tomahawk's film & music producer, (working only with the original pre-1945 shellack 78 rpm records), this particular Herms Niel CD was researched by myself and then produced entirely and only of music performed by Herms Niel and his Reichsmusikzug des RAD ..if it had been performed by the Luftwaffe as was stated by the aforesaid mentioned 'expert' here on this forum, then our CD would have been entitled "Musik der Luftwaffe" (which is indeed another CD from our wide stable of WW-II German Musik)
Having personally produced all of Tomahawk's German music CDs for over 25 years (at some great cost in recording studio time and expertise), and also spent 7 long years of my life writing & researching Tomahawk's well known (and now I'm proud to say, highly regarded), book "The Military Music and Bandsmen of Adolf Hitler's Reich 1933 to 1945" do you really think I/we would risk our standing in this specialised field of endeavour and make such a stupid, (nay dishonest) goof as producing a Herms Niel/RAD band CD..then putting other bands on it instead of RAD..?
(Other individuals touting their wares on-line may be doing this.. whilst also still ripping off our original productions I note.. but as a professional Film, TV and Music production company we certainly don't)
Come on people, (orthe 2 gentlemen responsible in particular), just grow up for heaven's sake. If you both want to set yourself up as on-line or forum experts in this field, then get a grip of your woeful knoweldge and check your facts before posting your fatuous information.. and if you wish to opine (wrongly in your case) about a German Musik CD or TV documentary I have produced, then at least do us all a big favour and speak with us first before making bold statements that are wrong ..otherwise, as you have clearly done here, you just make yorself look incrediblly stupid and underline for the world to see that you have no idea what you are talking about and so simply join the hordes of other 'odd people' that delight in listing erroneous information on the 'Net!!
Tomahawk Films' has not spent all these years working with the world's leading movie & tv documentary-making companies providing both musik & expertise to them, whilst also selling many, many tens of thousands of our studio-quality re-mastered German Musik CDs globally, to have some half-wit decide he wants to post wrong, misleading or plain libellous info on this Forum without checkinhg his facts first..and please be advised, we won't put up with this happening again!
Brian Matthews
Producer
The Tomahawk Films
WW-II German Archive
Winchester Hants UK
http://www.tomahawkfilms.com
It has recently been brought to our attention that several 'clever dicks' out there have previously posted information on this Axis Forum stating that our Herms Niel CD contains musik tracks performed by the Luftwaffe!!
Can I make it absolutely clear to these 'self-styled experts', (who did not do me the small courtesy of contacting me to discuss my work before posting their ignorant, smug, ill-informed and plain erroneous posts), that as Tomahawk's film & music producer, (working only with the original pre-1945 shellack 78 rpm records), this particular Herms Niel CD was researched by myself and then produced entirely and only of music performed by Herms Niel and his Reichsmusikzug des RAD ..if it had been performed by the Luftwaffe as was stated by the aforesaid mentioned 'expert' here on this forum, then our CD would have been entitled "Musik der Luftwaffe" (which is indeed another CD from our wide stable of WW-II German Musik)
Having personally produced all of Tomahawk's German music CDs for over 25 years (at some great cost in recording studio time and expertise), and also spent 7 long years of my life writing & researching Tomahawk's well known (and now I'm proud to say, highly regarded), book "The Military Music and Bandsmen of Adolf Hitler's Reich 1933 to 1945" do you really think I/we would risk our standing in this specialised field of endeavour and make such a stupid, (nay dishonest) goof as producing a Herms Niel/RAD band CD..then putting other bands on it instead of RAD..?
(Other individuals touting their wares on-line may be doing this.. whilst also still ripping off our original productions I note.. but as a professional Film, TV and Music production company we certainly don't)
Come on people, (orthe 2 gentlemen responsible in particular), just grow up for heaven's sake. If you both want to set yourself up as on-line or forum experts in this field, then get a grip of your woeful knoweldge and check your facts before posting your fatuous information.. and if you wish to opine (wrongly in your case) about a German Musik CD or TV documentary I have produced, then at least do us all a big favour and speak with us first before making bold statements that are wrong ..otherwise, as you have clearly done here, you just make yorself look incrediblly stupid and underline for the world to see that you have no idea what you are talking about and so simply join the hordes of other 'odd people' that delight in listing erroneous information on the 'Net!!
Tomahawk Films' has not spent all these years working with the world's leading movie & tv documentary-making companies providing both musik & expertise to them, whilst also selling many, many tens of thousands of our studio-quality re-mastered German Musik CDs globally, to have some half-wit decide he wants to post wrong, misleading or plain libellous info on this Forum without checkinhg his facts first..and please be advised, we won't put up with this happening again!
Brian Matthews
Producer
The Tomahawk Films
WW-II German Archive
Winchester Hants UK
http://www.tomahawkfilms.com
Dear Mr Matthews,
Thank you very much for all the insults.
About the CD in question: track 4 was recorded by Carl Woitschach's band ("Gloria" record, mx. Bi 3261); track 6 was recorded by Herms Niel but before he joined the RAD ("Electrola" record, mx. OD 1988-1); track 8 was never even recorded by Niel's band as a complete song, but only as part of a medley; that is Seidler-Winkler's recording you got there ("Electrola" record, mx. ORA 4176-1); tracks 9 & 10 were recorded by a LUFTWAFFE band from the Berlin-Gatow Airbase (both from the same "Odeon" record, mx. Be 12545 & Be 12544). I actually do have this Odeon record, same as real Niel's recordings of those songs (he recorded one for "Kristall" and the other for "Grammophon") and most of other original records used on that CD.
Now, if there's anything else you would like to know about the recordings you're using, please let me know. I would especially love to discuss your CD "Military Music of Adolf Hitler's Leibstandarte-SS". Please remind me: are all tracks performed by the Leibstandarte - or perhaps only ONE track...?!!
You, sir, are unbelievable :roll:
Ivan Ž.
EDIT: These are the scans of original records from my own collection (with two scans from my collector-friends); the very same tracks were used on Tomahawk's Herms Niel CD. Everyone can read the performers, I hope (after clicking the file, of course).
I wonder who turns out to be a "clever dick", "self-styled expert", "ignorant", "smug", "ill-informed", "incrediblly stupid" and a "half-wit" now. Calling me names won't change the fact that you did cheat your customers and that you had changed the historical facts for your own financial benefit. Thanks again for your post, it made my day.
Thank you very much for all the insults.
About the CD in question: track 4 was recorded by Carl Woitschach's band ("Gloria" record, mx. Bi 3261); track 6 was recorded by Herms Niel but before he joined the RAD ("Electrola" record, mx. OD 1988-1); track 8 was never even recorded by Niel's band as a complete song, but only as part of a medley; that is Seidler-Winkler's recording you got there ("Electrola" record, mx. ORA 4176-1); tracks 9 & 10 were recorded by a LUFTWAFFE band from the Berlin-Gatow Airbase (both from the same "Odeon" record, mx. Be 12545 & Be 12544). I actually do have this Odeon record, same as real Niel's recordings of those songs (he recorded one for "Kristall" and the other for "Grammophon") and most of other original records used on that CD.
Now, if there's anything else you would like to know about the recordings you're using, please let me know. I would especially love to discuss your CD "Military Music of Adolf Hitler's Leibstandarte-SS". Please remind me: are all tracks performed by the Leibstandarte - or perhaps only ONE track...?!!
You, sir, are unbelievable :roll:
Ivan Ž.
EDIT: These are the scans of original records from my own collection (with two scans from my collector-friends); the very same tracks were used on Tomahawk's Herms Niel CD. Everyone can read the performers, I hope (after clicking the file, of course).
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brunojohn333
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[Split from "CD, LP & MC reviews"]
Dear Sirs,
As Tomahawk's producer and the chap that has invested a small fortune in producing our internationally recognised Third Reich Military Music CDs I am getting a mite tired (and then some) of this self-styled expert (well he would be if he actually knew anything about the subject-matter), constantly denigrating our archival output and making sly comments about my work ...most of which are either plain wrong or libellous and this had got to stop.
How dare he take our work and months later put our covers and his re-written track listings of our work (such breath taking arrogance as to be unbelievable), up on your Forum, with him having decided on a whim (and with no contact with us), that the raw material we all worked with is erroneous or we do not know what we are talking about, especially when the company (and album) he quotes as being so ‘outstanding’ has made some unfortunate and very basic research errors in their productions, which many of us have noticed but out of sheer professional manners we have kept quiet about...but nom this 'self-styled expert' obviously did not pick up those mistakes so it just shows his level of knowledge..pretty near Zero many of us feel!)
I am actually quite outraged that this gentleman (and I would appreciate it as I have said before on one of these links) has not had the professional courtesy to contact us directly so that we can put him right about the many factual errors he has made about our work.
This is the big problem with these Forums (and why we usually have little to do with them other than respond to a fool like this chap), in that they let people like this (and we have no idea who you are, perhaps you are the Russian pirate who ripped off all of our material several years ago?), be allowed to slander our work at will and un0checked and I wish the Forum Modulator would please take note of this gentleman and stop him making libellous oe erroneous large scale posts about Tomahawk Films Internationally recognised work as it makes him look a complete idiot and also you, the Modulator, unwise, if you are happy to support this 'gentleman' in his mis-representation of our work.
Sir, your entire spare time seems to be taken up with obsessing about our work.. are you some sort of 'frustrated producer' unable to afford the cost of your own work, so easier to show off to your audience, sir, by denigrating other producer's work? Very Odd to say the least..but this has to stop.
As I have said once on here before, I personally take all the original material into the studio for digital re-mastering and so I know exactly what goes into each album and so our listings are complete and accurate.. and I don't remember you spending days in the studio with me as my co-producer so sir, would you please stop hiding behind your anonymity (if you dare) and show yourself so we can finally unmask you and discover exactly what your interest is in accusing Tomahawk Films of not knowing what we are about.
Perhaps you are working with a rival company and are being paid to denigrate our work mayhap?
We have been in business for over 25 years supplying global movie and TV companies (from MGM in Hollywood to the BBC in London), with their original archival sound-tracks whilst also providing the collecting world globally with high quality CDs of these wonderful period recordings and intend to be here for another 25 years, whether you like it or not.
So stop publishing your fatuous, erroneous and just plain libellous comments about our work and I also suggest that though he obviously wants to start a stream of discussion about companies getting it wrong, anybody thinking about joining in with this gentleman’s apparent hysteria about my company Tomahawk Films and his allegations of inaccuracies on our part, I suggest anybody getting caught up in his wave of enthusiasm think twice about joining in as many of our customers have alerted us to this chap's contants 'work' in slagging us off and so now, along with myself (and our lawyers), we will be watching for further such postings of his slanderous and libellous comments..
For the gentleman involved I have just one comment: ‘Grow Up’ and stick to a subject you perhaps know something about as German Military Music is so very obviously not your subject that is plain for us all to see. Actually to go a little further, if I were you, sir, , rather than publicly show of your stupidity and lack of knowledge in the subject and making a regular & complete jerk of yourself to the public at large, I think you’d we well advised to shut up..and keep quiet for a welcome period of silence which I thank many of us would welcome!!
As for the Modulators, sirs, I think you would also be doing your contributors a big favour if you stopped this chap from not only publishing erroneous'libellous details of our work on your website as well, but encouraging your contributors to join him in his weird Tomahawk Films-bashing by starting such a steram of discussion that he is seemingly hell-bent on indulging in, as this can, and will, only end badly for all those so involved ..thank you very much
Yours sincerely,
Brian Matthews
Producer and CEO
The Tomahawk Films
WW-II German Archive
Winchester
UK
Dear Sirs,
As Tomahawk's producer and the chap that has invested a small fortune in producing our internationally recognised Third Reich Military Music CDs I am getting a mite tired (and then some) of this self-styled expert (well he would be if he actually knew anything about the subject-matter), constantly denigrating our archival output and making sly comments about my work ...most of which are either plain wrong or libellous and this had got to stop.
How dare he take our work and months later put our covers and his re-written track listings of our work (such breath taking arrogance as to be unbelievable), up on your Forum, with him having decided on a whim (and with no contact with us), that the raw material we all worked with is erroneous or we do not know what we are talking about, especially when the company (and album) he quotes as being so ‘outstanding’ has made some unfortunate and very basic research errors in their productions, which many of us have noticed but out of sheer professional manners we have kept quiet about...but nom this 'self-styled expert' obviously did not pick up those mistakes so it just shows his level of knowledge..pretty near Zero many of us feel!)
I am actually quite outraged that this gentleman (and I would appreciate it as I have said before on one of these links) has not had the professional courtesy to contact us directly so that we can put him right about the many factual errors he has made about our work.
This is the big problem with these Forums (and why we usually have little to do with them other than respond to a fool like this chap), in that they let people like this (and we have no idea who you are, perhaps you are the Russian pirate who ripped off all of our material several years ago?), be allowed to slander our work at will and un0checked and I wish the Forum Modulator would please take note of this gentleman and stop him making libellous oe erroneous large scale posts about Tomahawk Films Internationally recognised work as it makes him look a complete idiot and also you, the Modulator, unwise, if you are happy to support this 'gentleman' in his mis-representation of our work.
Sir, your entire spare time seems to be taken up with obsessing about our work.. are you some sort of 'frustrated producer' unable to afford the cost of your own work, so easier to show off to your audience, sir, by denigrating other producer's work? Very Odd to say the least..but this has to stop.
As I have said once on here before, I personally take all the original material into the studio for digital re-mastering and so I know exactly what goes into each album and so our listings are complete and accurate.. and I don't remember you spending days in the studio with me as my co-producer so sir, would you please stop hiding behind your anonymity (if you dare) and show yourself so we can finally unmask you and discover exactly what your interest is in accusing Tomahawk Films of not knowing what we are about.
Perhaps you are working with a rival company and are being paid to denigrate our work mayhap?
We have been in business for over 25 years supplying global movie and TV companies (from MGM in Hollywood to the BBC in London), with their original archival sound-tracks whilst also providing the collecting world globally with high quality CDs of these wonderful period recordings and intend to be here for another 25 years, whether you like it or not.
So stop publishing your fatuous, erroneous and just plain libellous comments about our work and I also suggest that though he obviously wants to start a stream of discussion about companies getting it wrong, anybody thinking about joining in with this gentleman’s apparent hysteria about my company Tomahawk Films and his allegations of inaccuracies on our part, I suggest anybody getting caught up in his wave of enthusiasm think twice about joining in as many of our customers have alerted us to this chap's contants 'work' in slagging us off and so now, along with myself (and our lawyers), we will be watching for further such postings of his slanderous and libellous comments..
For the gentleman involved I have just one comment: ‘Grow Up’ and stick to a subject you perhaps know something about as German Military Music is so very obviously not your subject that is plain for us all to see. Actually to go a little further, if I were you, sir, , rather than publicly show of your stupidity and lack of knowledge in the subject and making a regular & complete jerk of yourself to the public at large, I think you’d we well advised to shut up..and keep quiet for a welcome period of silence which I thank many of us would welcome!!
As for the Modulators, sirs, I think you would also be doing your contributors a big favour if you stopped this chap from not only publishing erroneous'libellous details of our work on your website as well, but encouraging your contributors to join him in his weird Tomahawk Films-bashing by starting such a steram of discussion that he is seemingly hell-bent on indulging in, as this can, and will, only end badly for all those so involved ..thank you very much
Yours sincerely,
Brian Matthews
Producer and CEO
The Tomahawk Films
WW-II German Archive
Winchester
UK
Dear Mr Matthews,
Thank you very much for the 2nd round of insults.
You are obviously a person not worthy of a reply from my side at all, but I will do it anyway.
It is quite shocking that instead of an apology for your initial post and a public apology to your customers (if nothing else then just for your "LSSAH" CD), you decided to stick with the insults. Well, fine by me. As you should know, an insult says more about the insulter than the insultee.
Believe me, you are not the only person "getting tired" here. Are you aware at all that anyone can check my information simply by visiting SCF, or youtube record collectors' accounts? It takes just a few minutes! Are you aware that you do not own the only copies of these records? This is ridiculous. Every average collector of military records will instantly recognize who is making a fool of himself here. You are acting as if the two of us are the last persons on Earth to own such records, so it's best to play my word against yours, it just might work!
You keep asking why didn't I have the "professional courtesy" to contact you? What for? To ask why did you lie? Now, we are obviously talking about your "LSSAH" CD here (which you are constantly avoiding to comment!), which is a scam and not just a couple of errors and you know it. This is well illustrated in this topic. And now when everyone can see (and check for themselves with various collectors) what is actually being sold on this particular CD, you did not decide to apologize and stop the further sale of this scam; instead, you still advertize it on your website as your best selling CD. Not a good advertisement and so much about your own professionalism. And it's quite surprising considering that you do have some good projects, which do deserve compliments. If you took the time to read my reviews you would actually see that out of seven reviewed CDs of yours I did not recommend only two. I am always trying to be fair and compliment what is good. So, is that what you call "constantly denigrating our archival output"? Five positive reviews out of seven? OK, then perhaps my math isn't correct as I thought it was.
You also keep talking about my "factual errors". Name a few! I wrote about yours. If you have something concrete to write about, do so. Series of insults lead nowhere. But it is obvious that if you could prove me wrong about anything, you would have done it by now.
I don't think I need to waste a word on the rest of your insults. I simply cannot sink that low, I am sorry. I can only say that the point of a serious historical forum like this one is to seek the truth and publish facts, which is the only goal of this (music) section as well, I assure you. No one is trying to have a little private war against you, or your company; that's just silly. In any case, you're not that interesting to anyone here, trust me.
If you wish to add anything else, I beg you to comment only the "best selling CD" of yours. Please.
Sincerely,
Ivan Ž.
PS
For your information, I actually tried to stop the piracy of your tracks several times, on Amazon and youtube.
Thank you very much for the 2nd round of insults.
You are obviously a person not worthy of a reply from my side at all, but I will do it anyway.
It is quite shocking that instead of an apology for your initial post and a public apology to your customers (if nothing else then just for your "LSSAH" CD), you decided to stick with the insults. Well, fine by me. As you should know, an insult says more about the insulter than the insultee.
Believe me, you are not the only person "getting tired" here. Are you aware at all that anyone can check my information simply by visiting SCF, or youtube record collectors' accounts? It takes just a few minutes! Are you aware that you do not own the only copies of these records? This is ridiculous. Every average collector of military records will instantly recognize who is making a fool of himself here. You are acting as if the two of us are the last persons on Earth to own such records, so it's best to play my word against yours, it just might work!
You keep asking why didn't I have the "professional courtesy" to contact you? What for? To ask why did you lie? Now, we are obviously talking about your "LSSAH" CD here (which you are constantly avoiding to comment!), which is a scam and not just a couple of errors and you know it. This is well illustrated in this topic. And now when everyone can see (and check for themselves with various collectors) what is actually being sold on this particular CD, you did not decide to apologize and stop the further sale of this scam; instead, you still advertize it on your website as your best selling CD. Not a good advertisement and so much about your own professionalism. And it's quite surprising considering that you do have some good projects, which do deserve compliments. If you took the time to read my reviews you would actually see that out of seven reviewed CDs of yours I did not recommend only two. I am always trying to be fair and compliment what is good. So, is that what you call "constantly denigrating our archival output"? Five positive reviews out of seven? OK, then perhaps my math isn't correct as I thought it was.
You also keep talking about my "factual errors". Name a few! I wrote about yours. If you have something concrete to write about, do so. Series of insults lead nowhere. But it is obvious that if you could prove me wrong about anything, you would have done it by now.
I don't think I need to waste a word on the rest of your insults. I simply cannot sink that low, I am sorry. I can only say that the point of a serious historical forum like this one is to seek the truth and publish facts, which is the only goal of this (music) section as well, I assure you. No one is trying to have a little private war against you, or your company; that's just silly. In any case, you're not that interesting to anyone here, trust me.
If you wish to add anything else, I beg you to comment only the "best selling CD" of yours. Please.
Sincerely,
Ivan Ž.
PS
For your information, I actually tried to stop the piracy of your tracks several times, on Amazon and youtube.
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brunojohn333
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Well as I said before, Mr Ivan Z, I have no idea who you really are, (hiding behind your moniker), as you still do not have the professional courtesy to contact me or my company directly and check out your statements and so correct your on-going fatuous, erroneous and just plain wrong comments about our work before posting them... and as you so obvioulsy have no intention of revealing who you are, (and your moderators are apparently very happy to let you keep wittering on ad nauseum), I will simply let others read into your comments what they will and make up their own mind.
Were I in your shoes I would have been more than a little embarrassed and certainly made contact to check your errors and apologise for your inaccuracies and insulting remarks but in your fatuous reply you simply give credence to your lack of knowldege on this subject and underline the fact that many people spouting off on these Forums are either, it appears, frustrated producers unable to come up with their own work.. or merely sad publicity-seekers and as you obviously don't appear to produce anything yourself, you must fall into the second category!!.
Who or what gives you the right to 'go on air' and set yourself up as self-styled expert and grandly comment on, (or rather insult), everybody else's hard work when you have not produced anything yourself and you offer no proof of your, er, 'expertise??
Perhaps for you the old adage rings true:. "those can do, those who can't teach..and those who can't do either, become critics!!"
As I say I have been in working in the International Film & Television business for over 34 years and working with World War Two/Nazi-Era musik, specifically, for over 25 years (and have a list of production credits as long as your arm and Tomahawk Films has a very long and happy global list of satisfied customers for our CDs since 1987..with their freely proffered coments of approval posted on our website for all to see), so you'll excuse me if we don't need or seek your 'personal authorisation or approval' for my /our professional work..!
Again you know absolutely nothing about my company and its best selling works, (clearly by your on-going ignorant & sarcastic commentary), so for goodness sake stop being a complete Grade A Jerk, as a number of collectors in this field are beginning to notice what a very tiresome & boring individual you are becoming..!
A period of silence from you on this Forum would be most welcome, thank you!
Brian Matthews
Producer and CEO
The Tomahawk Films
WW-II German Archive
Winchester
Were I in your shoes I would have been more than a little embarrassed and certainly made contact to check your errors and apologise for your inaccuracies and insulting remarks but in your fatuous reply you simply give credence to your lack of knowldege on this subject and underline the fact that many people spouting off on these Forums are either, it appears, frustrated producers unable to come up with their own work.. or merely sad publicity-seekers and as you obviously don't appear to produce anything yourself, you must fall into the second category!!.
Who or what gives you the right to 'go on air' and set yourself up as self-styled expert and grandly comment on, (or rather insult), everybody else's hard work when you have not produced anything yourself and you offer no proof of your, er, 'expertise??
Perhaps for you the old adage rings true:. "those can do, those who can't teach..and those who can't do either, become critics!!"
As I say I have been in working in the International Film & Television business for over 34 years and working with World War Two/Nazi-Era musik, specifically, for over 25 years (and have a list of production credits as long as your arm and Tomahawk Films has a very long and happy global list of satisfied customers for our CDs since 1987..with their freely proffered coments of approval posted on our website for all to see), so you'll excuse me if we don't need or seek your 'personal authorisation or approval' for my /our professional work..!
Again you know absolutely nothing about my company and its best selling works, (clearly by your on-going ignorant & sarcastic commentary), so for goodness sake stop being a complete Grade A Jerk, as a number of collectors in this field are beginning to notice what a very tiresome & boring individual you are becoming..!
A period of silence from you on this Forum would be most welcome, thank you!
Brian Matthews
Producer and CEO
The Tomahawk Films
WW-II German Archive
Winchester
The Tomahawk Films attack on Brandenburg Historica
To: Mr. Brain Matthews
Director and CEO, Tomahawk Films
Dear Mr. Matthews:
My name is Bill Henaghan. I am the producer of all of Brandenburg Historica's military music CD's.
This discussion thread, in which you react to being caught in an apparently awkward position regarding the contents of your "Leibstandarte-SS" (sic) CD by impugning the quality and integrity of our own favorably reviewed CDs, has come to our attention.
To wit, you allege:
"the company (and album) he [IvanZ] quotes as being so ‘outstanding’ has made some unfortunate and very basic research errors in their productions, which many of us have noticed but out of sheer professional manners we have kept quiet about."
Your generous display of "professional manners" notwithstanding, we freely invite you to exhibit the singular expertise you claim (your web page does promise that you are "probably the world's foremost authority on Third Reich Military Music & German Marching Songs produced between the years 1933 to 1945") by documenting the specific "unfortunate and very basic research errors" you attribute to us in your remarks posted above.
We especially invite you to document any substantive "problems" or "mistakes" on our Grossdeutschland CD, the apparent catalyst for your outbursts here and elsewhere. We specifically invite you to document those tracks of this CD for which you allege we have misrepresented, either deliberately or unintentionally, the performers' actual identities, both in the literature accompanying said CD and our hard-copy advertising flyers / online advertisements for it.
On a more serious note, we further invite you to substantiate the false and damaging claims (far surpassing anything you have hurled at us here) that you make regarding our Grossdeutschland CD in your "Tomahawk Films Blog" of 21 December 2012. This came to our attention nearly a year after it was posted, and in it:
a) You assert that Brandenburg Historica "purports" (a sneering term full of negative connotations that was carefully chosen, no doubt) that ALL the tracks on its Grossdeutschland CD feature performances by the bands of Grossdeutschland.
b) You assert that Brandenburg Historica, in "erroneous" fashion, mislabels performances by the Band of the Wachbatallion of the Luftwaffe as performances by the "Grossdeutschland" Bands.
http://tomahawkfilms.com/blog/?tag=infa ... eutschland
Rather than trying to point out the prodigious volume of falsehood you were able to squeeze into just a few sentences of your blog, we instead invite you to provide actual evidence of the above mentioned "purporting" (not by paraphrasing, but quoting us) and to document all specific instances in the booklet that accompanies this CD, or ANY of our online or hard-copy advertisements of this CD, in which you allege we engage in dishonest descriptions or misrepresentations of the performers' actual identities. We also expressly invite you to list those tracks allegedly containing misidentified performances by the Luftwaffe Wachbataillon Band as you maliciously claim in your blog. In providing your "evidence," please furnish basic discographical information regarding the supposedly misrepresented "actual" source records, well as a few words on your motives for blogging this blatant falsehood (i.e., lie) at the time you did, which was approximately seven months after your last post here.
As an aside, I find it interesting that you attacked a reviewer for not contacting you directly before discussing in this forum his discovery of the actual identities of the performers on your "LSSAH" (sic) CD, an item for which he may have paid good money in expectation of receiving something else. In your own blog, you afforded no such courtesy to us when, based on what you describe as your recollections of approximately four- or five year old telephone conversations with unnamed third party individuals regarding a CD you claim you had not seen or heard at the time, you felt competent to publicly proclaim your ill-informed accusations against our company without "coming directly to us."
In short, you have publicly charged us with incompetence (here) and fraud (on your blog); now it is time to support your accusations with clear and objective documentary evidence, or to publicly withdraw your allegations and insinuations.
Please note that your position will not be enhanced by 1) maintaining a "discreet" silence, 2) engaging in ad hominem attacks and threats of litigation, 3) raging at the impertinence of those who dare to approach your work with anything other than unquestioning sycophancy, 4) reciting the details of your CV, or 5) issuing verbal fusillades on topics irrelevant to the subject at hand.
Your only option is to substantiate the allegations that you have wantonly and maliciously elected to make against our company in this forum and in your blog, or to repudiate them.
Cordially,
Bill Henaghan
Producer, Brandenburg Historica
Keene NH 03431 USA
http://www.germanmilitarymusic.com
P.S. To ensure that you have the opportunity to respond, I have taken the liberty of e-mailing you this link myself.
Director and CEO, Tomahawk Films
Dear Mr. Matthews:
My name is Bill Henaghan. I am the producer of all of Brandenburg Historica's military music CD's.
This discussion thread, in which you react to being caught in an apparently awkward position regarding the contents of your "Leibstandarte-SS" (sic) CD by impugning the quality and integrity of our own favorably reviewed CDs, has come to our attention.
To wit, you allege:
"the company (and album) he [IvanZ] quotes as being so ‘outstanding’ has made some unfortunate and very basic research errors in their productions, which many of us have noticed but out of sheer professional manners we have kept quiet about."
Your generous display of "professional manners" notwithstanding, we freely invite you to exhibit the singular expertise you claim (your web page does promise that you are "probably the world's foremost authority on Third Reich Military Music & German Marching Songs produced between the years 1933 to 1945") by documenting the specific "unfortunate and very basic research errors" you attribute to us in your remarks posted above.
We especially invite you to document any substantive "problems" or "mistakes" on our Grossdeutschland CD, the apparent catalyst for your outbursts here and elsewhere. We specifically invite you to document those tracks of this CD for which you allege we have misrepresented, either deliberately or unintentionally, the performers' actual identities, both in the literature accompanying said CD and our hard-copy advertising flyers / online advertisements for it.
On a more serious note, we further invite you to substantiate the false and damaging claims (far surpassing anything you have hurled at us here) that you make regarding our Grossdeutschland CD in your "Tomahawk Films Blog" of 21 December 2012. This came to our attention nearly a year after it was posted, and in it:
a) You assert that Brandenburg Historica "purports" (a sneering term full of negative connotations that was carefully chosen, no doubt) that ALL the tracks on its Grossdeutschland CD feature performances by the bands of Grossdeutschland.
b) You assert that Brandenburg Historica, in "erroneous" fashion, mislabels performances by the Band of the Wachbatallion of the Luftwaffe as performances by the "Grossdeutschland" Bands.
http://tomahawkfilms.com/blog/?tag=infa ... eutschland
Rather than trying to point out the prodigious volume of falsehood you were able to squeeze into just a few sentences of your blog, we instead invite you to provide actual evidence of the above mentioned "purporting" (not by paraphrasing, but quoting us) and to document all specific instances in the booklet that accompanies this CD, or ANY of our online or hard-copy advertisements of this CD, in which you allege we engage in dishonest descriptions or misrepresentations of the performers' actual identities. We also expressly invite you to list those tracks allegedly containing misidentified performances by the Luftwaffe Wachbataillon Band as you maliciously claim in your blog. In providing your "evidence," please furnish basic discographical information regarding the supposedly misrepresented "actual" source records, well as a few words on your motives for blogging this blatant falsehood (i.e., lie) at the time you did, which was approximately seven months after your last post here.
As an aside, I find it interesting that you attacked a reviewer for not contacting you directly before discussing in this forum his discovery of the actual identities of the performers on your "LSSAH" (sic) CD, an item for which he may have paid good money in expectation of receiving something else. In your own blog, you afforded no such courtesy to us when, based on what you describe as your recollections of approximately four- or five year old telephone conversations with unnamed third party individuals regarding a CD you claim you had not seen or heard at the time, you felt competent to publicly proclaim your ill-informed accusations against our company without "coming directly to us."
In short, you have publicly charged us with incompetence (here) and fraud (on your blog); now it is time to support your accusations with clear and objective documentary evidence, or to publicly withdraw your allegations and insinuations.
Please note that your position will not be enhanced by 1) maintaining a "discreet" silence, 2) engaging in ad hominem attacks and threats of litigation, 3) raging at the impertinence of those who dare to approach your work with anything other than unquestioning sycophancy, 4) reciting the details of your CV, or 5) issuing verbal fusillades on topics irrelevant to the subject at hand.
Your only option is to substantiate the allegations that you have wantonly and maliciously elected to make against our company in this forum and in your blog, or to repudiate them.
Cordially,
Bill Henaghan
Producer, Brandenburg Historica
Keene NH 03431 USA
http://www.germanmilitarymusic.com
P.S. To ensure that you have the opportunity to respond, I have taken the liberty of e-mailing you this link myself.
Last edited by Wilhelm_H on 23 Jan 2014, 04:36, edited 1 time in total.
Addendum: The Tomahawk Films attack on Brandenburg Historica
Mr. Matthews:
Your remarks in your Axis History Forum post of 15 December 2011, in which you suggest that the reviewer you attacked was / is "working with a rival company and are being paid to denigrate our work mayhap?" are beyond bizarre, and if nothing else speak volumes about your mindset and your views on standard operating procedure in the music "business."
Why not accuse several of the national affiliate branches of the International Military Music Society, i.e., those from Germany, the Netherlands, the USA and Great Britain, all of which count serious shellack collectors, musicians and academics among their membership and have strongly praised the CDs we have produced to date, of working with that same "rival company" as well?
You have unwittingly provided one clue to your possible motivation for publishing the outright lies you did regarding our Grossdeutschland CD in your blog of 21 December, 2012.
Bill Henaghan
Producer, Brandenburg Historica
http://www.germanmilitarymusic.com
Your remarks in your Axis History Forum post of 15 December 2011, in which you suggest that the reviewer you attacked was / is "working with a rival company and are being paid to denigrate our work mayhap?" are beyond bizarre, and if nothing else speak volumes about your mindset and your views on standard operating procedure in the music "business."
Why not accuse several of the national affiliate branches of the International Military Music Society, i.e., those from Germany, the Netherlands, the USA and Great Britain, all of which count serious shellack collectors, musicians and academics among their membership and have strongly praised the CDs we have produced to date, of working with that same "rival company" as well?
You have unwittingly provided one clue to your possible motivation for publishing the outright lies you did regarding our Grossdeutschland CD in your blog of 21 December, 2012.
Bill Henaghan
Producer, Brandenburg Historica
http://www.germanmilitarymusic.com
Dear Friends,
This is a long-overdue update for anyone interested in an ongoing and sordid saga that is now apparently "heating up" again, in the form of several recent and characteristically "dirty" tricks which I will not expound upon for now.
Since my public challenge to Mr. Matthews of Tomahawk Films to "put his money where his mouth is" regarding his publicly uttered lies regarding my work (in particular our Brandenburg Historica "Grossdeutschland" CD), he has steadfastly refused to back up his slanders with evidence, let alone engage me in public debate.
Despite this, we have been in contact: after I suggested to him a way to resolve this matter quietly, we received hysterical and threatening private communications, the threats (again, characteristically) addressed to my female colleague. He was especially panicked and upset by my privately sent proposal to subject both his purported "Leibstandarte" (sic) CD-R and my "Grossdeutschland" CD to examination for veracity by independent experts from one of the national branches of the International Military Music Society.
The German Branch in particular has as members many high-powered and knowledgeable schellack collectors who can effortlessly establish who has lied to the customer and who has not. Perhaps he is aware of the review of his work that appeared in 2002 in an issue of their journal "Mit klingendem Spiel" (which I have in my archives and can reproduce here in facsimile if need be), which may explain why he has steadfastly avoided providing them with review copies of his subsequent releases. I reiterate my challenge now. What does he have to hide?
It should further be pointed out that Mr. Matthews is now unabashedly promoting his purported "Leibstandarte" (sic) CD-R on Amazon.co.uk with a lengthy write-up about the Musikkorps of the LSSAH, with the clear imputation that it is they who are the performers. Anyone wishing to read the reviews (few or none of which seem to be "Amazon Verfied Purchasers," unlike most of our Amazon reviews) or to leave a review may click here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002HDVDVS
The following is addressed to Mr. Matthews: As "probably" the world's "foremost expert" on German military music of the Third Reich, it is time for you to back up your publicly uttered slanders with evidence. Why you have not already employed your fearsome expertise to do so speaks volumes about the level of seriousness that should be credited to you. In addition, your ego-projection is showing: When someone left a favorable review of my work on this site, and an unfavorable review of yours, your first thought was that a paid shill was at work. How does that relate to the "reviews" of your productions on Amazon.co.uk?
Is slandering the "competition" (though I reject any comparison between us) a recognized form of the "professional courtesy" you sanctimoniously invoke? If so, let us analyze your attitude in the following context: unlike our CD productions, your CD-R's (which have a limited shelf-life) have NO booklets, little to no performer identification, 14 or 16 tracks (while ours offer 20 to 25) and you charge approximately 50% more for them than we do. Your "distinctive package" is in fact the CHEAPEST packaging alternative available, and is exceeded in "economy" only by NO packaging at all, though your marketing is designed to make the customer think he's getting a real deal. Yes, we have been on the mailing lists of many CD replication firms for years and we receive all the catalogs.
We too spend a "small fortune" to produce a CD, and not only on re-mastering, but also on photographic illustrations, graphic layout (our last CD had a 36 page booklet) and research material for the notes, something you don't need to worry about with your "distinctive," booklet-less and note-less packaging. Oh yes, I almost forgot another difference: the performers on our CDs are accurately identified. Does this put your attacks into their proper context?
You may think that you can hurl handfuls of your own filth with impunity like the denizens of the monkey cages at the London Zoo in hopes that some of it it will stick, but I assure you that you are sadly mistaken. You must back up or retract the flippant and desperate accusations you spewed against us when caught red-handed in flagrant "inaccuracies" regarding the contents of your "LSSAH" (sic) CD R in this forum (you are evidently ignorant of the fact that "tu quoque" is not a recognized defense in any court of law), or be recognized as what the Germans call in their own inimitable but devastating way: "unseriös."
Axis History Forum members wishing to visit our web-site please click:
http://stores.militaryhistoryshop.com/
Recent postings on the Brandenburg Historica Blog:
"Unsere Garde: Music and Tradition in the Grossdeutschland Units"
http://stores.militaryhistoryshop.com/u ... and-units/
"Military Music and Tradition in Imperial Russia"
http://stores.militaryhistoryshop.com/b ... al-russia/
Best Regards,
Bill Henaghan
This is a long-overdue update for anyone interested in an ongoing and sordid saga that is now apparently "heating up" again, in the form of several recent and characteristically "dirty" tricks which I will not expound upon for now.
Since my public challenge to Mr. Matthews of Tomahawk Films to "put his money where his mouth is" regarding his publicly uttered lies regarding my work (in particular our Brandenburg Historica "Grossdeutschland" CD), he has steadfastly refused to back up his slanders with evidence, let alone engage me in public debate.
Despite this, we have been in contact: after I suggested to him a way to resolve this matter quietly, we received hysterical and threatening private communications, the threats (again, characteristically) addressed to my female colleague. He was especially panicked and upset by my privately sent proposal to subject both his purported "Leibstandarte" (sic) CD-R and my "Grossdeutschland" CD to examination for veracity by independent experts from one of the national branches of the International Military Music Society.
The German Branch in particular has as members many high-powered and knowledgeable schellack collectors who can effortlessly establish who has lied to the customer and who has not. Perhaps he is aware of the review of his work that appeared in 2002 in an issue of their journal "Mit klingendem Spiel" (which I have in my archives and can reproduce here in facsimile if need be), which may explain why he has steadfastly avoided providing them with review copies of his subsequent releases. I reiterate my challenge now. What does he have to hide?
It should further be pointed out that Mr. Matthews is now unabashedly promoting his purported "Leibstandarte" (sic) CD-R on Amazon.co.uk with a lengthy write-up about the Musikkorps of the LSSAH, with the clear imputation that it is they who are the performers. Anyone wishing to read the reviews (few or none of which seem to be "Amazon Verfied Purchasers," unlike most of our Amazon reviews) or to leave a review may click here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002HDVDVS
The following is addressed to Mr. Matthews: As "probably" the world's "foremost expert" on German military music of the Third Reich, it is time for you to back up your publicly uttered slanders with evidence. Why you have not already employed your fearsome expertise to do so speaks volumes about the level of seriousness that should be credited to you. In addition, your ego-projection is showing: When someone left a favorable review of my work on this site, and an unfavorable review of yours, your first thought was that a paid shill was at work. How does that relate to the "reviews" of your productions on Amazon.co.uk?
Is slandering the "competition" (though I reject any comparison between us) a recognized form of the "professional courtesy" you sanctimoniously invoke? If so, let us analyze your attitude in the following context: unlike our CD productions, your CD-R's (which have a limited shelf-life) have NO booklets, little to no performer identification, 14 or 16 tracks (while ours offer 20 to 25) and you charge approximately 50% more for them than we do. Your "distinctive package" is in fact the CHEAPEST packaging alternative available, and is exceeded in "economy" only by NO packaging at all, though your marketing is designed to make the customer think he's getting a real deal. Yes, we have been on the mailing lists of many CD replication firms for years and we receive all the catalogs.
We too spend a "small fortune" to produce a CD, and not only on re-mastering, but also on photographic illustrations, graphic layout (our last CD had a 36 page booklet) and research material for the notes, something you don't need to worry about with your "distinctive," booklet-less and note-less packaging. Oh yes, I almost forgot another difference: the performers on our CDs are accurately identified. Does this put your attacks into their proper context?
You may think that you can hurl handfuls of your own filth with impunity like the denizens of the monkey cages at the London Zoo in hopes that some of it it will stick, but I assure you that you are sadly mistaken. You must back up or retract the flippant and desperate accusations you spewed against us when caught red-handed in flagrant "inaccuracies" regarding the contents of your "LSSAH" (sic) CD R in this forum (you are evidently ignorant of the fact that "tu quoque" is not a recognized defense in any court of law), or be recognized as what the Germans call in their own inimitable but devastating way: "unseriös."
Axis History Forum members wishing to visit our web-site please click:
http://stores.militaryhistoryshop.com/
Recent postings on the Brandenburg Historica Blog:
"Unsere Garde: Music and Tradition in the Grossdeutschland Units"
http://stores.militaryhistoryshop.com/u ... and-units/
"Military Music and Tradition in Imperial Russia"
http://stores.militaryhistoryshop.com/b ... al-russia/
Best Regards,
Bill Henaghan