GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
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GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
Does anyone have anything on GM Karl Meltzer (1935-1945)
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Re: GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
Karl Meltzer
* 20.08.1894 in Klösterlein Zelle (Aue-Zelle)/Erzgebirge (Sachsen)
† 25.12.1945 im Lager Mühlberg/Elbe
01.03.1914 Fähnrich
12.05.1914 Leutnant (Pat. v. 13.06.1913)
15.09.1918 Oberleutnant
01.10.1922 Oberleutnant (Pat. v. 20.06.1918)
01.02.1927 Hauptmann
01.10.1934 Major
01.04.1937 Oberstleutnant
01.04.1940 Oberst
Eltern: Pfarrer Martin Meltzer & Ernestine geb. Voigtländer.
Kadett.
01.03.1914 Eintritt in das Kgl. Sächsische 8. Feld-Artillerie-Regiment Nr. 78, Wurzen
1914/ 1918 Batterie-Offizier im Feld-Artillerie-Regiment 78, Batterie-Führer im Feld-Artillerie-Regiment 279 der Sächsischen Armee
01.10.1919 im leichten Reichswehr-Artillerie-Regiment 19 der Reichswehr-Brigade 19, Leipzig, der Vorläufigen Reichswehr
01.10.1920 im 4. (Preußisch-Sächsischen) Artillerie-Regiment, Dresden
01.02.1929 Chef der 2. Batterie des 1. (Preußischen) Artillerie-Regiments, Königsberg
01.03.1934 Lehr-Offizier an der Kriegsschule Dresden
01.10.1936 Kommandeur der III. Abteilung des Artillerie-Regiments 14, Naumburg
26.08.1939 - 00.00.1942 Kommandeur des Artillerie-Regiments 255
00.00.1942 - Frühjahr 1943 Artillerie-Kommandeur 108 (Arko 108)
04.01.1944 Höherer Artillerie-Kommandeur I
12.04.1945 in sowjet Kriegsgefangenschaft
25.12.1945 verstirbt im Speziallager Nr.1 des NKWD/MWD Mühlberg bei Bad Liebenwerda/Elbe
Seit 12.05.1921 mit Hildegard geb. Stadelbauer verheiratet
Kgl. Sächsischer Albrechts-Orden, Ritterkreuz 2. Klasse (A R2x bzw. SA3b)
Ritterkreuz des Kgl. Sächsischen Militär-St. Heinrichsordens (HR bzw. SH3)
EK II und I mit Spange
Dieter Z.
* 20.08.1894 in Klösterlein Zelle (Aue-Zelle)/Erzgebirge (Sachsen)
† 25.12.1945 im Lager Mühlberg/Elbe
01.03.1914 Fähnrich
12.05.1914 Leutnant (Pat. v. 13.06.1913)
15.09.1918 Oberleutnant
01.10.1922 Oberleutnant (Pat. v. 20.06.1918)
01.02.1927 Hauptmann
01.10.1934 Major
01.04.1937 Oberstleutnant
01.04.1940 Oberst
Eltern: Pfarrer Martin Meltzer & Ernestine geb. Voigtländer.
Kadett.
01.03.1914 Eintritt in das Kgl. Sächsische 8. Feld-Artillerie-Regiment Nr. 78, Wurzen
1914/ 1918 Batterie-Offizier im Feld-Artillerie-Regiment 78, Batterie-Führer im Feld-Artillerie-Regiment 279 der Sächsischen Armee
01.10.1919 im leichten Reichswehr-Artillerie-Regiment 19 der Reichswehr-Brigade 19, Leipzig, der Vorläufigen Reichswehr
01.10.1920 im 4. (Preußisch-Sächsischen) Artillerie-Regiment, Dresden
01.02.1929 Chef der 2. Batterie des 1. (Preußischen) Artillerie-Regiments, Königsberg
01.03.1934 Lehr-Offizier an der Kriegsschule Dresden
01.10.1936 Kommandeur der III. Abteilung des Artillerie-Regiments 14, Naumburg
26.08.1939 - 00.00.1942 Kommandeur des Artillerie-Regiments 255
00.00.1942 - Frühjahr 1943 Artillerie-Kommandeur 108 (Arko 108)
04.01.1944 Höherer Artillerie-Kommandeur I
12.04.1945 in sowjet Kriegsgefangenschaft
25.12.1945 verstirbt im Speziallager Nr.1 des NKWD/MWD Mühlberg bei Bad Liebenwerda/Elbe
Seit 12.05.1921 mit Hildegard geb. Stadelbauer verheiratet
Kgl. Sächsischer Albrechts-Orden, Ritterkreuz 2. Klasse (A R2x bzw. SA3b)
Ritterkreuz des Kgl. Sächsischen Militär-St. Heinrichsordens (HR bzw. SH3)
EK II und I mit Spange
Dieter Z.
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Re: GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
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Re: GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
I could found nothing about "HArko I". To which unit was he attached?
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Re: GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
Hello,
It looks like – at least according to Keilig – that Meltzer was not HArKo, but "Höherer Artillerie–Offizier I" or HöhArtOffz I (Königsberg in Preußen). This designation was established in 1943 and the HöhArtOffz was subordinated to the Inspekteur der Artillerie.
Jake
It looks like – at least according to Keilig – that Meltzer was not HArKo, but "Höherer Artillerie–Offizier I" or HöhArtOffz I (Königsberg in Preußen). This designation was established in 1943 and the HöhArtOffz was subordinated to the Inspekteur der Artillerie.
Jake
Re: GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
Thank you! So was he captured in Königsberg? But then it should have been 9 April instead of 12?
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Re: GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
This from the HPA card indexes for him:
5.1.44 Höh.Art.Offz.i.Königsberg
1.9.44 kdt.Stb.Kdt.Befest.Bereich Mitte als Stb.Offz.d.Art.
11.1.45 FR
Source: NARA T-78 R-890
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John
5.1.44 Höh.Art.Offz.i.Königsberg
1.9.44 kdt.Stb.Kdt.Befest.Bereich Mitte als Stb.Offz.d.Art.
11.1.45 FR
Source: NARA T-78 R-890
Regards
John
Re: GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
Hello everybody
In Keilig´s Arkos list (with cdrs.) Karl Meltzer is shown (from 2.42 to 4.43) as cdr. of Arko 149. I guess that this is correct as there is no vacancy (about that period of time) in Arko 101 (Keilig) or Arko 108 (Krug)
Besides, both Keilig and Krug wrongly report him as cdr. of Harko I that did not exist (Tessin). I therefore guess that the correct designation is the following one (Tessin) :
"Festungs-Artillerie-Kdr. I * 15. 9.1940 durch WK VI bei der Kdtr. der Befestigungen Niederrhein, dann aufgelöst, 15.10.1941 beim WK VI für den Insp. der Landesbefestigung Ost wieder aufgestellt, Verwendung in Posen, 29. 9.1942 als Höh. Art. Offz. (Fest.) in den Stab d. Insp. der Landesbef. Ost eingegliedert". What do You think ?
But was it in 1944 in Königsberg (as Jake and John assert) ?
As Meltzer was capured 4.45 in Königberg, it should be logical that he was Höh.Art.Offz. (Königsberg) until 4.45 and not as from his HPA card as St.Offz.d.Art. from 9.44 in Bereich Mitte..........
Awaiting Your comments....., Rossano
In Keilig´s Arkos list (with cdrs.) Karl Meltzer is shown (from 2.42 to 4.43) as cdr. of Arko 149. I guess that this is correct as there is no vacancy (about that period of time) in Arko 101 (Keilig) or Arko 108 (Krug)
Besides, both Keilig and Krug wrongly report him as cdr. of Harko I that did not exist (Tessin). I therefore guess that the correct designation is the following one (Tessin) :
"Festungs-Artillerie-Kdr. I * 15. 9.1940 durch WK VI bei der Kdtr. der Befestigungen Niederrhein, dann aufgelöst, 15.10.1941 beim WK VI für den Insp. der Landesbefestigung Ost wieder aufgestellt, Verwendung in Posen, 29. 9.1942 als Höh. Art. Offz. (Fest.) in den Stab d. Insp. der Landesbef. Ost eingegliedert". What do You think ?
But was it in 1944 in Königsberg (as Jake and John assert) ?
As Meltzer was capured 4.45 in Königberg, it should be logical that he was Höh.Art.Offz. (Königsberg) until 4.45 and not as from his HPA card as St.Offz.d.Art. from 9.44 in Bereich Mitte..........
Awaiting Your comments....., Rossano
Re: GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
Many officers returned to their last residence when placed into the Führerreserve. If Meltzer lived in Königsberg for several months during 1944, he may have returned to the city in January 1945 only to find himself encircled and cut off from the Reich a little later.
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Re: GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
More information from his HPA cards.
26.8.39 Kdr. AR 255
13.2.42 Arko 149
4.4.43 FR WKr IV
13.11.43 g.v.H bis 1.2.44 [garnisonsverwendungsfähig Heimat]
5.1.44 Höh.Art.Offz. i. Königsberg
1.9.44 kdt. Stb. Kdt. Befest.Bereich Mitte als Stb.Offz.d.Art.
11.1.45 FR WKr IV
His private address is given as:
Naumburg/Saale, Kais.Friedrich-Platz 4, T3181
Neither Dieter nor Keilig say explicitly that he was captured in Königsberg - any possibility he was captured in Wkr IV?
The problem with Keilig is that after the letter A and some of the letter B he no longer gives dates for when a general entered the FR. It is a common mistake to assume that a general held a particular post until the next appointment given in Keilig - this is often not true.
Regards
John
26.8.39 Kdr. AR 255
13.2.42 Arko 149
4.4.43 FR WKr IV
13.11.43 g.v.H bis 1.2.44 [garnisonsverwendungsfähig Heimat]
5.1.44 Höh.Art.Offz. i. Königsberg
1.9.44 kdt. Stb. Kdt. Befest.Bereich Mitte als Stb.Offz.d.Art.
11.1.45 FR WKr IV
His private address is given as:
Naumburg/Saale, Kais.Friedrich-Platz 4, T3181
Neither Dieter nor Keilig say explicitly that he was captured in Königsberg - any possibility he was captured in Wkr IV?
The problem with Keilig is that after the letter A and some of the letter B he no longer gives dates for when a general entered the FR. It is a common mistake to assume that a general held a particular post until the next appointment given in Keilig - this is often not true.
Regards
John
Re: GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
This is even more often the case: officers returned to their Friedensstandort when in the Führerreserve. Now, Naumburg was captured by US forces on April 12, 1945! This would fit very well - but why should he have been extradited to the Soviets?
Are there any cases in which that happened?
Are there any cases in which that happened?
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Re: GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
There were many cases where the Americans turned over captured personnel to the Soviets. How about the officers of JG 52?
Re: GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
But the cases I know of concerned troops or individuals who had been fighting the Soviets in Bohemia or the Balkans (HGr Mitte / HGr E). Meltzer, if captured in Naumburg, should have been a different story.
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Re: GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
I just noticed that his final promotion has not been mentioned in this thread:
01.10.1943 Generalmajor (15)
01.10.1943 Generalmajor (15)
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Re: GM Karl Meltzer 1894-1945
According to the KTB of Befehlshaber Straße Kertsch:
While remaining Arko 149, he was also Kommandant d. Halbinsel Taman (06 Feb 1943-28 Mar 1943).
While remaining Arko 149, he was also Kommandant d. Halbinsel Taman (06 Feb 1943-28 Mar 1943).