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One more picure I think it is again Lion battery (Shi paotai) in Nanjing and current picture of preserved emplacement.
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This drawing is 6-inch=15 cm gun.forttravel wrote:And emplacement of such gun described by Japanese Army (after capture in China?).
Here similar emplacement for 4.7-inch=12 cm gun. What about this preserved example, is it 15 or 12 cm gun (Kiangnan made?). And gun on emplacement (without shield), 12 cm?
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Opposite site of Taiwan strait. Chinese nationalist emplacement. What a gun is this?
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The preserved emplacement is not Lion Hill, but Qingliang Hill (Qingliang Shan). The emplacements on Lion Hill have all been destroyed with only underground structures survive. The only surviving gun emplacements in Nanjing is this one on Qingliang Hill and two (with another one or two partially destroyed) on Tiger Hill (Laohu Shan).forttravel wrote:One more picure I think it is again Lion battery (Shi paotai) in Nanjing and current picture of preserved emplacement.
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It seems an 155mm M1 gunwrote
Opposite site of Taiwan strait. Chinese nationalist emplacement. What a gun is this?
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Continuation/replace of sub-subject from here:
https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic ... 6&start=60
https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic ... 6&start=60
I have few more pictures, I think western (left, 498 masl) peak was an emplacement structure for howitzers. Last picture shows round shaft structure with ammo nisches?Statist wrote:Many thanks for the interesting information.forttravel wrote:Hi Statist,
Real location of 28 cm Krupp coast howitzers is unknown, just described as "highest peak of island" so I suppose it was in building/structure used later by British as a signal station.
The "highest peak of island" is Qidingshan Hill. Now there are Britain-built two guns battery (the Centurion battery) on the western (left) highest top of hill.
There are two old photos of Qidingshan Hill and Liugongdao island. Some structures used later by British as a signal station supposedly are situated on the eastern (right) top of the hill.
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Perhaps, indeed on the western top of the hill was located a battery of 28 cm Krupp howitzers.
Unfortunately there are very few old photos of coastal batteries on the island of Lugongdao.
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The last picture shows the right (eastern) gun position of the British Centurion coastal battery. This photo was probably taken in the 30s of the 20th century after the British left the island. We can see traces of the same breaks as on the old picture.
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I think it was possible to determine the location of the battery in Nanjing. This battery is located on Mount Fuguishan.forttravel wrote:Hi Statist, could you comment please that picture, it is described in internet also as Yantai. Battery III or IV? What do you mean? On attached map there is a stone wall which is visible on picture too approching to mountains ascents.
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=ru&lat=32.05 ... 4%E5%B1%B1
32°3'31"N 118°48'51"E
The battery is located inside the city wall of Nanjing.
There are some more photos of the battery on Mount Fuguishan.
In the background of pictures there is a one of the highest mountain in the vicinity of Nanjing, Jijinshan (Mount Purple), on top of which now there is an astronomical observatory (Purple Mountain Observatory)
The last picture is from the Memorial Hall of the Victims in Nanjing Massacre by Japanese Invaders.
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I have one more picture from China with that old Krupp semi-fixed gun as on above next to last picture, but I don't know location.
Big river on background could be Yangtze = Nanjing?
Big river on background could be Yangtze = Nanjing?
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Probably the picture shows the area of the city of Hankow (Hankou). For example, there is one picture showing a similar view.forttravel wrote:I have one more picture from China with that old Krupp semi-fixed gun as on above next to last picture, but I don't know location.
Big river on background could be Yangtze = Nanjing?
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Nanjing? For sure 4.7 inch Armstrong gun on Vavasseur mont with shield.
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This is only propaganda imagination, but seems to shown a simplistic view of disappearing gun (big elevating arm).
1937 year, Kiangyin Fort on Yangtze river.
A real story or?
1937 year, Kiangyin Fort on Yangtze river.
A real story or?
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Yes, most likely this gun was installed in Nanjing. Mount Long-Kuang-chan is the distorted name of Mount Longguangshan (龙广山). Longguangshan is another name for Mount Fuguishan.forttravel wrote:Nanjing? For sure 4.7 inch Armstrong gun on Vavasseur mont with shield.
This is a very interesting picture. There are many pictures of a large-caliber coastal gun (305 mm?) established in Jiangyin and captured by the Japanese in 1937. However, it is unlikely that this gun was a disappearing gun.forttravel wrote:This is only propaganda imagination, but seems to shown a simplistic view of disappearing gun (big elevating arm).
1937 year, Kiangyin Fort on Yangtze river.
A real story or?
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Going back to Liugongdao battery called now "Centurion".
From attached British map extract you can see fort VIII already on right peak of Centurion Hills. It is desctibed as "casamate style (shafts?) not armed by Chinese time". So my supposition is that existing Chinese battery prepared for 28 cm Krupp howitzers were rebuild/reused by British for future service. Other British document tells about "Summit Battery" to be armed with two 9.2 inch guns.
So: Centurion Hill = Summit Battery = Centurion Battery.
From attached British map extract you can see fort VIII already on right peak of Centurion Hills. It is desctibed as "casamate style (shafts?) not armed by Chinese time". So my supposition is that existing Chinese battery prepared for 28 cm Krupp howitzers were rebuild/reused by British for future service. Other British document tells about "Summit Battery" to be armed with two 9.2 inch guns.
So: Centurion Hill = Summit Battery = Centurion Battery.
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This picture is very similar to an engraving depicting a French 320 mm Canet cannon model 1876. Perhaps the French cannons were in service at the Jiangyin Fortress.forttravel wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 13:15This is only propaganda imagination, but seems to shown a simplistic view of disappearing gun (big elevating arm).
1937 year, Kiangyin Fort on Yangtze river.
A real story or?