Establishment Documents on Pamyat Naroda

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Re: Establishment Documents on Pamyat Naroda

Post by Art » 28 Feb 2017 07:57

Well, I guess all that TO&E docs are mostly stored in files of central directorates such as files of commander of Red Army artillery, commander of armored forces, GlavUpraForm etc. They are not digitized, and I don't know of any plans to do that. What we have is a collection of documents from files of operational sections of fronts/armies staffs which can contain some random TO&Es docs. Organizational sections of corresponding staffs is a more appropriate place to search those docs, but they are not digitized either.

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Re: Establishment Documents on Pamyat Naroda

Post by Gary Kennedy » 28 Feb 2017 12:42

Yes, I think we were very lucky to get as much as we did for free. I'd toyed with the idea of hiring a researcher in Russia to try and find the Mech/Tank unit tables I'm interested in but I suspect it would be too complicated and probably too expensive.

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Post by Jeff Leach » 28 Feb 2017 16:34

Gary Kennedy wrote:Yes, I think we were very lucky to get as much as we did for free. I'd toyed with the idea of hiring a researcher in Russia to try and find the Mech/Tank unit tables I'm interested in but I suspect it would be too complicated and probably too expensive.

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I've been quoted prices from $200 - $500 for 100 pages. If I have understood correctly - your researcher needs to have Contacts at the archives for the best results. Some researchers are limited in the number of copies they can make per day and even maybe access to some records. Nowadays, there is the complication that you want the researcher to only look through material that isn't going to be or has been published digitally (the folders are marked in some way). I have employed a researcher several times and did get some interesting material but the method is just too expensive for general searches. If you search through the Soviet records available online first, it might be Worth asking a researcher to look at what wasn't been published online. This is the method I used and got some interesting material - some document for the 80 UR, 3 Antitank Brigade, 23 Motorcycle Regiment and strenght returns for South Front. None of which was available online. The biggest problem was that I didn't have deep enough pockets. Try and have enough Money in reserve so you can pay for 1000 pages ($2000 - $5000 dollars).

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Re: Establishment Documents on Pamyat Naroda

Post by Reigo2 » 11 Mar 2017 10:10

This may be 04/550-04/562 (?)

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Re: Establishment Documents on Pamyat Naroda

Post by Gary Kennedy » 11 Mar 2017 11:48

It is a summary of a reduced strength variation of 04/550, with the bulk of the savings found from the Rifle Regts and a few more personnel trimmed from the service units.

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Re: Establishment Documents on Pamyat Naroda

Post by Der Alte Fritz » 16 Mar 2017 08:27

In fact this is Scheme 26 of a much wider study in the "Defeat of the Germans before Moscow" (Operational Study)
see: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 9&t=227516

Article on Tank Brigades in 1941
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=114795997

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Re: Establishment Documents on Pamyat Naroda

Post by Nakhodchanin » 08 Sep 2018 05:37

Штат № 010/375 от 31 марта 1942г. Роты противотанковых ружей моторизованной стрелковой бригады - 010/375 of 31 March 1942 Anti-tank rifle company of motorized rifle brigade
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=454857759
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Re: Establishment Documents on Pamyat Naroda

Post by Virginian » 24 Feb 2019 14:07

Rifle Division 1945 with divisional artillery brigade
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=132314006
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Re: Establishment Documents on Pamyat Naroda

Post by Nakhodchanin » 22 Jun 2019 21:50

I am pleased to greet the entire esteemed community after my long absence! I managed to find this document quite a long time ago, but only now it's time to post it: https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=454490860 Временный штат № 010/302 отдельного танкового батальона от 28 ноября 1941г. - Temporary Shtat No.010/302 separate tank battalion of November 28, 1941.

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Re: Establishment Documents on Pamyat Naroda

Post by Nakhodchanin » 26 Aug 2019 16:12

I am pleased to greet the entire esteemed community!It is time for follow document - "Штат №012/212 отдельного моторизованного инженерного батальона отдельной гвардейской моторизованной инженерной бригады Резерва Главного Командования мая 1944г. - Shtat No.012/212 sep.MotEngrBn sep.GrdMotEngrBde RGK 20.VI.1944", on 5 pages. The original is here: https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=454357389 This ''prey'' is very valuable, as for it is attached bonus - "Табель к штату - Tables of Equipment for Shtat", on 5 pages: https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=454357421 Though of course there are very small imperfections that do not allow to make a conclusion about entirely 100% the quality of the material - immediately spoiler of annoynce: missing completely individual artillery weapons and a whole Table of Armored Equipment disappeared somewhere :?

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