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Imperial German Marines

Post by prj453 » 26 May 2003 02:40

Hello,

I believe that Germany had several battalions of marines (Seebattalion) prior to and during WWI. Were these battalions under the control of the Imperial German Navy, the Royal Prussian Army, or the Ministry of War?

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Post by Peter H » 26 May 2003 03:08

Imperial Navy--3 battalions pre 1914.The 3rd Battalion was at Tsingtao.

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More on the Matrosen here:

http://miniatures.de/html/int/1914-kais ... arine.html

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Post by Chris Dale » 25 May 2004 14:25

Here's some more picutres of the German Seebattalions and Marine Infantry.
One shows an NCO of the III Seebattalion in Tropical Uniform in Tsingtao.
One is a member of the II Seebattalion in Parade dress.
One is a member of the 1st Matrosen Division in M1915 field grey unifrom in Flanders 1918.
Hope they're of interest and please feel free to post any more you have!
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Post by Peter H » 26 May 2004 09:49

From Wehrmacht-Awards.com.

...1916 shots as 9th Company, 3rd Sea Battalion, 3rd Marine Infantry Regiment

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... 6224&stc=1

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... 6225&stc=1

...a group of Feldgrau uniformed sailors from the 2nd Matrosen Division in the trenches at Ostende

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... 7971&stc=1

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Post by Peter H » 26 May 2004 10:09

Marine-Artillerie occupy the Belgian coast 1914.
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Post by Peter H » 26 May 2004 10:16

1 SeeBattalion,said to be 1914 Flanders:
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Post by Peter H » 26 May 2004 10:20

From the The History of the Great European War,1914.
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Post by Peter H » 26 May 2004 10:23

Matrosen(Naval Infantry) Tsingtau:
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Post by Peter H » 26 May 2004 10:44

From Der Krieg 1914-19 in Wort und Bild....Belgium 1914.
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Post by Chris Dale » 26 May 2004 17:29

Hi Mulded,
Thanks for those great pictures. I'd seen some before but they also claer up a mystery for me. I'd seen the picutres of the Marines at rest labelled as being from the 1914 campaign but I wasn't sure that they really went into action at least partially in the old blue uniforms. I thought maybe these pictures had been taken pre-war. But that photo of the beaches is surely in War time Belgium. It looks exactly like the wide flat beaches of Belgium. So they really did fight in blue. Thanks.
Here's a couple more pictures- one is a close up of a shako, the other show a musician in litewka in 1913.
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Post by Glenn2438 » 26 May 2004 18:22

Chris,

the guys in the blue naval rig are not members of the pre war naval infantry (See-Bataillone) but members of the Matrosen (literally sailor's regiments formed at the beginning of the war and subordinated to the Marine-Korps.

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Post by Chris Dale » 26 May 2004 20:42

Hi Glenn,
Are you psychic? I was just sitting here wondering why some wore Seebatalion uniforms and some wore sailor's rigs...and you go and post the answer before I post the question. Thanks very much!
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Chris
PS Here's a photo of a matrosen soldier, too.
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Re: Imperial German Marines

Post by Reichskriegsgericht » 06 Jun 2004 20:05

prj453 wrote:I believe that Germany had several battalions of marines (Seebattalion) prior to and during WWI. Were these battalions under the control of the Imperial German Navy, the Royal Prussian Army, or the Ministry of War?-Patrick


Although the three Seebataillone are listed in the Prussian Army Rangliste, they do not figure as part of the Royal Prussian Army itself, but are listed in the supplement like the Ostasiatisches Detachment in China and the Schutztruppen.

Hans Jürgen Witthöft, Lexikon der deutschen Marinegeschichte, page 70/71, mentions the formation of an Inspekteur der Marineinfanterie under the Chef der Ostseestation in 1889/1890. So they are part of the Imperial Navy.

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Post by tyskaorden » 14 Jun 2004 16:18

The three Seebataillonen of 1914 was stationed as this:
I. Seebtl. Kiel
II. Seebtl. Wilhelmshaven
III. Seebtl. Tsingtau and Kiautschou in China

There also was the III. Stamm-Seebtl. in Cuxhaven, which was the Home-depot of the China-based III. SeeBtl.

There also was the Matrosen Artillerie Abteilungen, which was coastal artillery.

Under the Commander of the Baltic Naval Station was:
I. Matrosen Art. Abt. Friedrichsort

The Commander of the North Sea Naval Station had:
II. Matrosen Art. Abt. Wilhelmshaven
III. Matrosen Art.Abt. Lehe with detachment at Helgoland.
IV. Matrosen Art.Abt. Geestemünde (which today forms part of Bremerhaven).


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Re: Imperial German Marines

Post by ccj » 28 May 2016 20:08

My Marinekorps Flandern officer

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