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Kripo photos for review

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Post by mil-archive » 03 Jan 2018, 01:23

These appear to be routine photographs of Kripo at work but I am wondering if anyone can confirm the location, timeframe and what is likely going on here ?

Originally I thought this was a Freemason hall of some sort being dismantled but this appears to be a Christian church, with Celtic looking animal designs on the embroidery and I can make out a crucifix among the items being examined /used and possibly removed.

Examination of items (4 uniformed men, 3 plainclothes along with 2 women) note the objects laid out for review on both tables as well as crates on the ground ?


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Examination of items detail (Crucifix, Cross shaped box Medieval/Celtic animal designs and distinctive church features)

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Uniform detail - anyone know the rank ?

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Writing on the back - anyone make out the third word ?

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Post -Examination departure - note the swastika carved into the door, woman and party badge wearers;

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Loading onto train, could this be a small coffin or relics/artifacts & more party-badge wearers.

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If anyone recognises anything about them I'd be interested to hear. Thanks for checking.

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Gerard

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Post by Waleed Y. Majeed » 03 Jan 2018, 14:37

Gerard, this might answer some of your questions, as I believe the "embroidery" on the wall is in fact the mantle of King Roger II of Sicily https://trc-leiden.nl/trc-needles/indiv ... -of-sicily
One link more mentioning SS men removing and transporting items by special train in 1938
https://austria-forum.org/af/Wissenssam ... kleinodien
And picture 1 & 2 might be from this church
http://www.gesellschaft-museum.de/pop_journal.php5?18

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Post by mil-archive » 03 Jan 2018, 18:02

Hello Waleed,

Thanks a lot for those links and information !

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Post by mil-archive » 03 Jan 2018, 23:16

Hello,

Thanks again to Waleed for finding that information and adding those links. From examining the photographs it seems the ones I posted above were taken in the Katharinenkirche Nürnberg in 1938 as the items which had been removed from Vienna were being setup.

It is not clear to me from this link:

https://austria-forum.org/af/Wissenssam ... kleinodien

whether or not the so-called 'Spear of Destiny' would have been one of the items removed at this time ? I dug out the Ravenscroft book but it was not specific in terms of the other items.

If you compare this photo

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source: http://www.gesellschaft-museum.de/pop_journal.php5?18

The frame around the Mantle of Roger II of Sicily is an exact match, as are the display cases behind the SS man and the Church decoration:
research-Katharinenkirch-1938.jpg
Here is another item from the Kunst Historisches Museum Wien

DAS FUTTERAL FÜR DAS TISCHTUCH-RELIQUIAR
1518 datiert

http://www.khm.at/de/object/66207e82c8/
DAS FUTTERAL FÜR DAS TISCHTUCH-RELIQUIAR.png
which is a match for the items above. Finally this photo is a match for one of the locations above:
"Verladung der Reichsinsignien 1938

Adolf Hitler Ließ die Reichskleinodien von Wien in die Nürnberger Katharinenkirch bringen"

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source:http://www.ulrich-hermanns.de/rko/revival/

I believe the Cross shaped box on the table and the swords on the table could be showing items from this collection:

http://www.wikiwand.com/de/Reichskleinodien

Regards,
Gerard

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