Was there any Il-2s losses on 19 June 1944 at Kämärä/Gavrilo area?

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Re: Was there any Il-2s losses on 19 June 1944 at Kämärä/Gavrilo area?

Post by CF Geust » 31 May 2018 08:50

POWs of VVS KBF were (at least) Ltn. Ivan Markovich Shvedov (Il-4 pilot of 1 GMTAP) who was captured 20.6.1944, and Jn.Ltn Boris Kokorin (Il-2 pilot of 47 ShAP) who was captured 4.7.1944.

Detailled information about KBF-losses are generally NOT found in the Defence Ministry Archive (TsAMO) in Podolski, but in the Navy Archive (TsAVMF) in Gatchina - as the Navy formed a separate Peoples Commissariat during WW II, and was formally NOT subordinated to the Defence Ministry!

The mentioned aviator-POWs Jn.Lt. Nikolai Borisov and Red army Soldier Rem Khuzainov were members of the same Pe-2 crew (pilot and gunner; the navigator Sergei Kuznetsov was KIA. Pe-2 c/n was 9/275, unit 34 GBAP) which was shot down at Hiitola 18 June 1944 (note date!). Khuzainov was captured next day (19 June 1944).

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Re: Was there any Il-2s losses on 19 June 1944 at Kämärä/Gavrilo area?

Post by tramonte » 27 Feb 2020 11:27

CF Geust wrote:
31 May 2018 08:50
POWs of VVS KBF were (at least) Ltn. Ivan Markovich Shvedov (Il-4 pilot of 1 GMTAP) who was captured 20.6.1944, and Jn.Ltn Boris Kokorin (Il-2 pilot of 47 ShAP) who was captured 4.7.1944.

Detailled information about KBF-losses are generally NOT found in the Defence Ministry Archive (TsAMO) in Podolski, but in the Navy Archive (TsAVMF) in Gatchina - as the Navy formed a separate Peoples Commissariat during WW II, and was formally NOT subordinated to the Defence Ministry!

The mentioned aviator-POWs Jn.Lt. Nikolai Borisov and Red army Soldier Rem Khuzainov were members of the same Pe-2 crew (pilot and gunner; the navigator Sergei Kuznetsov was KIA. Pe-2 c/n was 9/275, unit 34 GBAP) which was shot down at Hiitola 18 June 1944 (note date!). Khuzainov was captured next day (19 June 1944).
Thank you CF. There's inevitable mistakes on list of Lars Westerlund ("Prisoners of war and internees"). Borisov and Khuzainov was mentioned as crew of 34 GBAP and days didn't match either( 17 and 19 June). So there was indeed captured flying crew members of VVS KBF. So far i haven't found on that list of POWs andy PVO fighter pilots captured in Karelian Isthmus.
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