Panzerzug - 1945

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Panzerzug - 1945

Post by Volyn » 30 Oct 2018 14:58

I am searching for a Panzerzug that was operating near Groß Krössin - which is the modern Polish city of Krosino (powiat szczecinecki). This train was bombarding elements from the Soviet 1st Bn - 231st Guards Rifle Regiment - 75th Guards Rifle Division on 27 FEB 1945. The attack commenced at 16:40 with 17 shots recorded and only one wounded casualty officially reported.

Can this Panzerzug be identified?

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Re: Panzerzug - 1945

Post by hucks216 » 30 Oct 2018 15:20

This is the KTB and has entries for 1945 which might help (pages 65 & 66):

http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/n ... ect/zoom/7

There is a fair bit of information for 1945 in German Armored Trains 1904-1945 (ISBN: 9780764335235) by Wolfgang Sawodny but neither of the place names you state are mentioned.
According to Wiki, Groß Krössin/Krosino is now a village with a population of 550.

It looks like PZ-72A, PZ-L5 & PZ-77 might of been in that area.

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Re: Panzerzug - 1945

Post by Volyn » 30 Oct 2018 17:02

hucks216 wrote:
30 Oct 2018 15:20
This is the KTB and has entries for 1945 which might help (pages 65 & 66):

http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/n ... ect/zoom/7

There is a fair bit of information for 1945 in German Armored Trains 1904-1945 (ISBN: 9780764335235) by Wolfgang Sawodny but neither of the place names you state are mentioned.
According to Wiki, Groß Krössin/Krosino is now a village with a population of 550.

It looks like PZ-72A, PZ-L5 & PZ-77 might of been in that area.
Great thanks hucks! I'll check into these and see what else I can dig up.

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Re: Panzerzug - 1945

Post by Volyn » 01 Nov 2018 20:36

hucks216 wrote:
30 Oct 2018 15:20
This is the KTB and has entries for 1945 which might help (pages 65 & 66):

http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/n ... ect/zoom/7

There is a fair bit of information for 1945 in German Armored Trains 1904-1945 (ISBN: 9780764335235) by Wolfgang Sawodny but neither of the place names you state are mentioned.
According to Wiki, Groß Krössin/Krosino is now a village with a population of 550.

It looks like PZ-72A, PZ-L5 & PZ-77 might of been in that area.
I found the following -
It seems very likely that the Panzerzug seen near Groß Krössin is Panzer-Lehr-Zug 5 (PZ-L5) destroyed or blown up by its own crew in the area of ​​Bialogard 05 MAR 1945, the distance from Groß Krössin to Bialogard is only 20km on straight rails. My estimation is it can only be PZ-L5, because PZ-72A was destroyed or damaged in Kołobrzeg, as reported by Gen. Kieniewicz - Battle report No. 0066 of the commander of the Polish 4th Infantry Division on combat operations in Kołobrzeg on 15 MAR 1945.

hucks216 are you able to confirm if this is accurate?

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Re: Panzerzug - 1945

Post by hucks216 » 02 Nov 2018 17:52

From page 402 from German Armored Trains 1904-1945 by Wolfgang Sawodny:

On 24th February strong Soviet forces had entered Pomerania to break toward the Baltic Sea, and quickly gained territory from the Preussisch-Friedland-Schlochau line to the northwest. The armoured trains in Stargard (PZ-77 & PZ-L-5) were sent on the march to the west flank of the breakthrough area on 25th February. The next day PZ-77 was able to ward off the attack of Russian tanks on the Bublitz railroad station in an all-day fight, then it returned to Drawehn. In an attempt to go back toward Bublitz the next day it came into a trap probably set just for it. Twenty T-34 tanks and 6 anti-tank guns had driven to the tracks and took it under concentrated fire. Soon it was made immobile and destroyed more and more.

PZ-L-5 went to Neustettin and escorted a gun transport from there to Belgard on the night of 26/27 February. Then it stayed - subordinated to the von Tettau Corps Group - in that area, took part in the defensive fighting around Köslin on 3rd March, and after the city fell on 4th March it returned to Belgard.

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Re: Panzerzug - 1945

Post by Volyn » 02 Nov 2018 18:36

hucks216 wrote:
02 Nov 2018 17:52
PZ-L-5 went to Neustettin and escorted a gun transport from there to Belgard on the night of 26/27 February. Then it stayed - subordinated to the von Tettau Corps Group - in that area, took part in the defensive fighting around Köslin on 3rd March, and after the city fell on 4th March it returned to Belgard.[/i]
Great - do you know if there are any photos of PZ-L-5 available?

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Re: Panzerzug - 1945

Post by hucks216 » 02 Nov 2018 21:21

Not in the book that I can see.

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