Stellungs Batterien
Stellungs Batterien
What is the difference between a divisional batterie and a Stellungs Batterie?
Is it just the way they were commanded?
Divisional Batterie = subordinated to a division (own artillerie of the division)
Stellungs Batterie = subordinated to korps?
I was really struggeling with the numbering of the Stellungs Batterien
and why these had a different numbering than the Divisional Batteries.
But am I right with my theory?
And what about the numbering, is there a good overview of these?
Greetings Jack.
Is it just the way they were commanded?
Divisional Batterie = subordinated to a division (own artillerie of the division)
Stellungs Batterie = subordinated to korps?
I was really struggeling with the numbering of the Stellungs Batterien
and why these had a different numbering than the Divisional Batteries.
But am I right with my theory?
And what about the numbering, is there a good overview of these?
Greetings Jack.
Re: Stellungs Batterien
I'm under the impression that the Stellungsbatterien were a fixed part of Stutzpunktgruppen, Stutzpunkten and Widerstandnesten. And the Divisionbatteries are part of the Divisions and are moved with them. A Division has a standard of 3 bat., but when they are in coastal defend they have a total of 6 bat. (3 of their own and 3 extra of the Stellung)
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Re: Stellungs Batterien
Most (or all) Stellungs-Batterien (Küste) were formed as Geräte-Batterien only,
that means: no permanent staff (only a few man for training) - just guns. No Etat (no budget).
The guns were then operated by infantry-divisions, which was nearby.
ca in early 1943 the Batterien were "etatisiert" - now with budget.
and in late 1943 most of them were summarized into "Heeres-Artillerie-Abteilungen (bodenständig)"
Uwe
PS: my planned 2-Book-Set of "Heeres-Küsten-Artillerie" will include all of those batteries
that means: no permanent staff (only a few man for training) - just guns. No Etat (no budget).
The guns were then operated by infantry-divisions, which was nearby.
ca in early 1943 the Batterien were "etatisiert" - now with budget.
and in late 1943 most of them were summarized into "Heeres-Artillerie-Abteilungen (bodenständig)"
Uwe
PS: my planned 2-Book-Set of "Heeres-Küsten-Artillerie" will include all of those batteries
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My Bookproject: "Organisationsgeschichte der deutschen Heeresartillerie im II. Weltkrieg"
http://balsi.de/Heeresartillerie/
My Bookproject: "Organisationsgeschichte der deutschen Heeresartillerie im II. Weltkrieg"
http://balsi.de/Heeresartillerie/
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Re: Stellungs Batterien
You know who wants that?
Jan-Hendrik
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Re: Stellungs Batterien
I want that J-H
For the Stellungs batterien , the heavy naval guns in the Westwall were had the names s. Stellungs Batterie .
The "Stellungs Batterie ( K or Küste )" were static batteries not under the direct command of the division but
attached as "Bodenständige Waffen" . Here some examples , as Uwe stated most of the were renamed in december
1943 in H.A.A. . It looks that some light guns of the Stellungs batterien were transferred end 1943 in Division artillery.
Early 1944 all Stellungs batterien were gone, all were renamed . ( BAMA and NARA )
For the Stellungs batterien , the heavy naval guns in the Westwall were had the names s. Stellungs Batterie .
The "Stellungs Batterie ( K or Küste )" were static batteries not under the direct command of the division but
attached as "Bodenständige Waffen" . Here some examples , as Uwe stated most of the were renamed in december
1943 in H.A.A. . It looks that some light guns of the Stellungs batterien were transferred end 1943 in Division artillery.
Early 1944 all Stellungs batterien were gone, all were renamed . ( BAMA and NARA )
Re: Stellungs Batterien
Could is be the same with different names? For example like this: The guns came with the division (div. btr) and the emplacements where static (stellungs btr). So they could be command by the division stab of a abschnitt, that could be a other unit (stab) then the unit where the guns belong to.
Nice to now the relation of the observation towers in Holland, in relation with the batteries
g,Ruud
Nice to now the relation of the observation towers in Holland, in relation with the batteries
g,Ruud