Romania admits role in Holocaust

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Romania admits role in Holocaust

Post by chalutzim » 18 Jun 2003 13:31

By Associated Press, 6/18/2003
The admission followed statements last week denying that any part of the Holocaust had taken place on Romanian soil. That denial had outraged Romania's Jewish community and sparked a warning from Israel that relations between the two countries would be strained.

On Friday, a day after Romania signed an agreement allowing the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington to study Romanian archives about the Holocaust, the Ministry of Public Information issued a statement saying, ''We firmly claim that within the borders of Romania between 1940 and 1945 there was no Holocaust.''

On Sunday, Israel summoned the Romanian ambassador to the Foreign Ministry, telling her that the statement was incorrect and had strained relations between the two nations.

Reversing itself, the Romanian government issued a statement yesterday saying that the pro-Nazi Romanian regime from 1940 to 1944 ''was guilty of grave war crimes, pogroms, and mass deportations of Romanian Jews to territories occupied or controlled by the Romanian Army.''

It employed ''methods of discrimination and extermination, which are part of the Holocaust,'' the statement added.

The government insisted that Prime Minister Adrian Nastase and his Cabinet had consistently condemned the wartime persecution and killing of Jews, but did not explain why the government had changed its view since Friday.

This story ran on page A13 of the Boston Globe on 6/18/2003.
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Post by Mike K. » 18 Jun 2003 13:58

Why is Israel taking such an active role in this matter?

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Post by chalutzim » 18 Jun 2003 14:13

Mike K. wrote:Why is Israel taking such an active role in this matter?
Russia could act on the same way if Germany would allege that no Russian POW was starved, ill-treated and murdered while subjected to forced labour in Germany during WWII. Likewise, Romania could protest if Russia did the same kind of allegation regarding the Romanian POWs. So why Israel couldn't protest when the Romanian government made that statement? For a Zionist, every diaspora jew is a prospective Israeli citizen, no? Even retroactively...

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Post by Mike K. » 18 Jun 2003 14:30

Seems to be a more academic (though erroneous) claim than one of foreign policy.

Not sure what you meant by that last part.

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Post by chalutzim » 18 Jun 2003 14:59

Mike K. wrote:Seems to be a more academic (though erroneous) claim than one of foreign policy.

Not sure what you meant by that last part.
Sorry Mike K., I was trying to answer your question: "Why is Israel taking such an active role in this matter?".

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Post by Brig » 18 Jun 2003 15:02

hmmm...a complete 180 degree reversal. obviously they realized their first statement was not too bright, and might lose them credit on the stage of world politics

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Post by chalutzim » 18 Jun 2003 15:11

Brig wrote:hmmm...a complete 180 degree reversal. obviously they realized their first statement was not too bright, and might lose them credit on the stage of world politics
Brig, I guess that besides "their first statement was not too bright", they acknowledged that it was erroneous. So, in my opinion, their reversal has nothing to do with PC:
THE HOLOCAUST IN ROMANIA

In Romania, Jews lost their citizenship in 1937, and with it certain legal protections. The Germans never thought the fascist Iron Guard was efficient enough to run the country, so the less extreme military-royal dictatorship remained in charge. Events in Romania proceeded along lines consistent with Hilberg's model: Jews were first identified and then had their property expropriated.

When the war with Russia began in 1941, Romania initiated an extermination program of its own in liberated Bessarabia. Jews from Bessarabia and from Romania proper were assembled there and murdered: the Romanians proceeded with such single-mindedness that some German authorities criticized their activity, because the use of rail cars was interfering with the military effort.

The period of Romanian-sponsored massacres was intense but short: by 1942 Romania's leaders guessed that Germany would lose the war, and abruptly stopped the killings. As a result, about 550,000 Romanian Jews survived the war. 120,000 Romanian Jews were killed in Bessarabia; another 150,000 from Transylvania died after falling under Hungarian control, then being deported from Hungary in 1944.
at http://www.lib.msu.edu/sowards/balkan/lect19.htm

I'm afraid this thread will be moved.

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Post by David C. Clarke » 18 Jun 2003 15:41

Well Chalutzim, you have to admit this is not your usual "Lounge" material. It does rather belong in the H&WC section.
But, for the benefit of those of us who never go to that section and because this is a "current event", I'll leave it here for now.


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Post by chalutzim » 18 Jun 2003 15:48

David C. Clarke wrote:Well Chalutzim, you have to admit this is not your usual "Lounge" material. It does rather belong in the H&WC section.
But, for the benefit of those of us who never go to that section and because this is a "current event", I'll leave it here for now.


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Thanks, David. You're right. Regards. Wintceas. :)

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