German Fuel Shortages 1944-1945 Information

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German Fuel Shortages 1944-1945 Information

Post by Der Rittmeister » 04 Feb 2021 00:51

Hey forum! Do anyone here have any good overview of how bad the fuel shortages was between 44´45´, perhaps some statistics?
Thanks!

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Post by Sid Guttridge » 24 Feb 2021 13:53

Hi AriX,

I have never seen an entirely wordless reply packed with such a mass of "to the point" information.

Exemplary.

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Post by lordgort » 28 Feb 2021 02:50

This video is about the German oil/fuel situation generally and not specific to 1944/45 but I thought it was fascinating. Be interested to know what other members think of this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVo5I0xNRhg&t=5s

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Post by Carl Schwamberger » 01 Mar 2021 04:00

AriX wrote:
24 Feb 2021 00:17
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Who compiled this? Anything else of value in this book ?

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Post by AriX » 04 Mar 2021 15:18

Carl Schwamberger wrote:
01 Mar 2021 04:00

Who compiled this? Anything else of value in this book ?
As I remember correct, it was complied by US Inteligence after WW2, by data from German documents.

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Post by TheMarcksPlan » 04 Mar 2021 16:36

AriX wrote:
04 Mar 2021 15:18
Carl Schwamberger wrote:
01 Mar 2021 04:00

Who compiled this? Anything else of value in this book ?
As I remember correct, it was complied by US Inteligence after WW2, by data from German documents.
Is it from a book? Which one?
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Post by Richard Anderson » 04 Mar 2021 17:55

Carl Schwamberger wrote:
01 Mar 2021 04:00
AriX wrote:
24 Feb 2021 00:17
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Who compiled this? Anything else of value in this book ?
They are the data tables used to produce the figures found in the USSBS Oil Division Final Report and the BBSU report The Strategic Air War Against Germany 1939-1945. Some of the data are also found in those reports as annualized data, but these tables are rarely reproduced in full.
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Post by Carl Schwamberger » 04 Mar 2021 18:34

Thanks Rich. As so often happens we stumble out of the woods & find ourselves again staring at the USSBS.

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Post by Nautilus » 15 Mar 2021 12:55

Donald L. Miller (Masters Of The Air, 2006, ppg. 313) said: as of the first quarter of 1944, over 50% of the entire German supplies of (synthetic) oil, 85% of high-grade motor fuel and nearly 100% of aviation gasoline came from inside Germany proper, from the synthetic fuel plants located in Ruhr, Silesia and central Germany, near Leipzig.

As we can see in the tables above, the synthetic fuel industry reached an all-time high in March 1944: 185000 tonnes of aviation gasoline (not "aviation fuel" in general, as the jet planes used fuel oils), 221000 tonnes of motor fuel and 168000 tonnes of Diesel fuel. The bombing campaign erased this advantage as early as June 1944.

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