194mm GPF in combat in May-June 1940

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194mm GPF in combat in May-June 1940

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Post by Kelvin » 12 Jun 2021, 15:24

Hello, I would like to ask if French used 194mm GPF tracked Cannons in May-June 1940 campaign ? I know she had several regiment had these guns under Artillery General Reserve, but did they use it in any battlefield or spot in this war ? thank

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Post by Kelvin » 13 Jun 2021, 13:42

I see 184e heavy artillery regiment was only unit with 194mm SP GPF : 61 officers, 167 NCO and 1367 privates, 24 x 194mm SP with 6 batteries, 81 trucks, 3 trailers, 59 vans and 37 light vehicles.


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Re: 194mm GPF in combat in May-June 1940

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Post by wwilson » 13 Jun 2021, 19:40

This document,

LISTE
des unités combattantes d'artillerie pour la période du 10 mai au 25 juin 1940.
Du 20 septembre 1954


issued as a BULLETIN OFFICIEL DES ARMEES,

shows the regiment was active until 20 June 1940. Unfortunately does not give a combat history.

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Re: 184e RALT

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Post by Loïc » 13 Jun 2021, 20:02

It was placed under 6e Armée in may 1940 subsequently acting for 7e Corps d'Armée and 44e DI

the four JMO of the regiment
https://www.ancestramil.fr/cms/uploads/ ... 9-1940.pdf
and each of its 3 Groups are here bottom of page
https://www.ancestramil.fr/cms/artiller ... -1945.html
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Re: 194mm GPF in combat in May-June 1940

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Post by wwilson » 14 Jun 2021, 09:40

@Loïc -- nice site, thank you for the URL.

@Kelvin -- in reply to your question as to whether the regiment took part in combat -- yes. The war diaries pointed to by Loïc indicate various actions, such as:

26 May 1940. De 9h30 à 10h30. Tirs d’interdiction sur le carrefour de Chamouville par le III/184 et
sur le carrefour de Carny par le II/184.
(Interdiction fire against the noted road intersections.)

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Re: 184e RALT

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Post by Kelvin » 14 Jun 2021, 14:56

Loïc wrote:
13 Jun 2021, 20:02
It was placed under 6e Armée in may 1940 subsequently acting for 7e Corps d'Armée and 44e DI

the four JMO of the regiment
https://www.ancestramil.fr/cms/uploads/ ... 9-1940.pdf
and each of its 3 Groups are here bottom of page
https://www.ancestramil.fr/cms/artiller ... -1945.html
Regards
Loïc
Hi, Loic, and wwilson, thank for both helps.

Lee Sharp book IV has a chapter on RAP but he only mentions how many and type of casemate or turrets controlled by RAP in Maginot Line, but I found that those RAP also had other field guns and cannon, like 168e RAP , she had 75mm mle 1897, 155mm Guns L77, Saint Chamond 155mm C15, Schneider 155mm C17.

Lee Sharp book only had detailed data on breakdown of guns of 165e RAP.

So apart from 165e and 168e RAP, any link or website have data on break down of gun and type of gun of 150e, 151e, 152e, 153e, 156e, 163e and 169e RAP ? thank

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Re: 194mm GPF in combat in May-June 1940

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Post by wwilson » 15 Jun 2021, 07:50

You might try the French wikipedia. For example:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/150e_r%C3 ... artillerie

This one will be of interest to you:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9gi ... e_position

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Re: 194mm GPF in combat in May-June 1940

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Post by Kelvin » 15 Jun 2021, 14:33

wwilson wrote:
15 Jun 2021, 07:50
You might try the French wikipedia. For example:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/150e_r%C3 ... artillerie

This one will be of interest to you:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9gi ... e_position

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Hello, wwilson, the link is very helpful for me. Thank a lot.

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